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i have my site, how do i make money with it?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by heated, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. heated

    heated Newbie

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    alright guys i made my website and i was wondering if you guys could help me think of ways to make money off of it. it's a record label that i've started and would like the website to make some supplementary (or primary haha) income. i'm open to all options (partnerships, hiring someone, whatever)

    the website is www(dot)heatedrecords(dot)com

    i'm affiliated with linkshare and clickbank and have a signed artist that generates a couple thousand plays a day.

    let me know what you guys think, i'm eager. thanks in advance :)
     
  2. oceanman

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    sell more panties and bra..and might boost your current income more....give it a try... :D
     
  3. heated

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    haha you want me to sell the bras girls throw on the stage or what?
     
  4. heated

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    but on a more serious note, are there any addons i can upload to the root directory that could give me a better perspective of the demographics that are visiting the site?
     
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    i've thought about doing that, but i don't know if it'll work for this site.

    i was thinking more along the lines of making money through affiliates
     
  7. dealhunter

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    Depending on your traffic you might want to consider trying adsense.

    I know its not what it was but it still can be pretty good.
     
  8. Paul_X

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    My first advice would be to sort out your primary income, before you worry about your secondary income.

    For the period he's been on Myspace your 'artist' has a low view count, play count, and friend count, so he's under exposed, very under exposed, and as a record label your music should be your main draw, to bring the traffic to your website.

    Think of it this way, if you could milk 1 cent per visitor, off 100,000 visitors a day, wouldn't that be better than 5 cents per visitor, off 5,000 visitors a day?

    For now, if I was you, I'd just stick with basic income from your site, adsense, or w/e, and dedicate your time to raising your artists profile, and public image, to drive increased traffic to your site.

    When you've got that, you'll be getting a steady income anyway, and will have plenty of time to tweak, and optomize, your secondary site based incomes.
     
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    what the hell this is just too hilarious!
     
  10. heated

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    we've only been on myspace for a little over a month, what are some ways to draw traffic? myspace limits our friend count and those trains don't really bring quality traffic.

    what are some good ways to bring requests in?
     
  11. jay101

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    Well, you could always make some more myspace accounts, facebook, etc. to get more friends etc. Then...

    Start some sort of contest and try to generate some buzz amongst your following. Let it be voted/decided by your viewing to build a type of interactive community which would then spawn a feeling of belonging/family.

    Maybe use a video type setup so that locals can get their talent recognized and maybe even accumulate some sponsership after you've got enough talent gathered together so that you can start signing and producing.

    Just some thoughts, nothing to earth shattering.
     
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  12. heated

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    thanks jay, really good advice. just got done making a myspace for the label which should allow another 500 members a day to add. i'll put the label myspace on the top friends of my artists. hopefully that'll generate some cross-page friends requests.

    what i've been doing is adding the newest 50 friends from different bands that are similar to my artist's style. it's been working really well. just that 500 friend limit is getting in the way
     
  13. Paul_X

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    I've clocked hundreds of thousands with an artist in a month before, when I've managed artists in the past.

    I'll be honest with you, I don't know what genre of music he is, or whether he's any good or not, because I left before I heard a single note, just based on the low stats alone.

    I get approached from time to time, from bands asking if I'll manage them, as I've quite a bit of experience in the field, and frequently they'll link me to a Myspace, and if I see stats like that, I always walk away, and don't even listen, or entertain taking them on, because that's poor traffic, they have to improve before I'm interested in taking them on, because that's just extra work, getting them from nothing to something.

    If memory serves me he was on an average of about 500 views a day, over about 40 days, and about 4000 friends, so about 100 friends a day?

    I see the average 13 year old kid on Myspace, with a non-music profile, with stats way better than that.

    Hell, you can send out 450 invites a day with a bot, and/or use a friend adding site to scoop another 400 or 500, and recruit at local gigs, and go hustle, and promote in chatrooms, and forums, to clock easily, way more than 1,000 friends a day, without even trying.

    These are just basics that you should already know, if you want to be in the trade.

    I've clocked a couple of hundred thousand friends, views, and plays in a month before (without even needing to open a Myspace play increaser bot), and that's nothing, there are literally hundreds, if not thousands of unsigned, and never will be signed artists, clocking more than 100 friends a day, and more than 500 views a day, without breaking a sweat, and some of them are just awful, so if they can do it, you can do it too.

    The first thing is to get the 'cool kids', when a company like Nike launch a new pair of shoes, they hand out a free pair to the 'cool kids' cuz if they like them, then everyone is going to copy, and wear them too.

    Get yourself some 'cool kids', because if they tell everyone you're 'cool' you'll go viral, and that's priceless, but aside from that there's plenty of bots, and friend adding sites, that can drive new people to you.

    Here's a little trick for you, get a bot, send out 450 invites, targetted of course (harvest the users from bands of a similar natures friends lists), then that's 450 invites sent out, then go to somewhere like www(dot)friendstorm(dot)net sign up, get some friends to sign up (refferals boost your rankings, and the higher your rank the more adds you get), then click add friends, and watch the pop ups, now of course, you used your limit for the day, so you don't do anything, apart from launch the pop ups, but each pop up gets you one point, there's 3 pop ups a time, if memory serves me right, so you only need to click the button about 150 times, with a couple of refferals, to get to the top of the pile, and get yourself a few hundred invites sent to you, each day.

    Sign up early each day, after the reset, to maximize your adds.

    Use those two tactics, the bot, and sites like friendstorm (there's many of others you can use too, because remember, you're not adding, your just triggering the pop ups), and between one site, and one bot, you should be able to clear 500-1000 friends every day, to add to the 400 or 500 you should be getting legitimately, add in some viral, and a little promotion in chatrooms, and on forums, and you should be clearing a couple of thousand a day, for a relatively small amount of work.

    If the musics any good, then that will increase your play count too.

    If you do want to boost your play count, obviously the best thing to do is make sure the music is good, and that people know it's there, but you can also use a Myspace plays increaser bot to give you a short term boost, to move you up the rankings, early on, and to increase the impressive look of the page.

    People like to like what they think other people like, they like to be 'popular', and like the 'cool kids', so if they think your artist has 200,000 views, instead of 20,000 views, then they are more likely to believe they are popular, and worth friending.

    Of course most of these are just simple patches, nothing beats getting your band out there, touring, gaining real fans, from real effort, but things like the above will give you an early boost, and increase traffic, and your early listner/fan/friend base.

    If it was an artist of mine though I'd have been looking for at least 200,000 (legitimates) in the first month, and to move forward from there in future months, so you've a long way to go, right now your stats are around the level of a "karaokee girl in her bedroom"'s stats.

    Like I said earlier, I'd be making improving that my first priority, because 200,000 visitors, giving you a few cents a day, is much better than 20,000 giving you a few a day.

    Grow your traffic, and then that will grow your income, far more than any 'tweaking' of adverts will.
     
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  14. jay101

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    Those walls are an illusion, put your blackhat on and go through them or around them.

    There are many ways to get around the friend limit, search this forum thats for sure and learn how to register several accounts or as much as you can about myspace marketing.

    You might just find some tricks that you never thought existed and some great alternatives or complimentary sites to myspace.

    Good luck heated.
     
  15. heated

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    you guys are the sh1t for real.. time to get some WORK done,
    thanks a bunch
     
  16. Paul_X

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    Yeah, multiple accounts with comments and messages can increase your limits massively.

    Sending out 450 from 10 accounts, all with "add me" links can drive a huge increase in traffic his way, especially if his artist is any good.

    Even if he only got a 10% take up that would be another 450 a day, just from ten accounts, and again, with a bot, it can all be automated.
     
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    This place is a treasure chest with a lot of priceless goodies.
    Very useful info, I will apply thta to my free sample site. Thanks guy.
     
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    sell ringtone from jamster or other music site
     
  19. heated

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    i keep hearing myspace is pretty intense on massive friend adding.. what do you guys think is a safe amount of friend requests a day? i currently have 4 accounts running at max requests so thats about 2000 requests

    also, would i get slammed if i put a redirect script on a different account that would redirect them to the band page instead of the page i requested them with
     
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    Check out the myspace section for additional ways to make friends besides just friend requesting everybody.