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I Have Hired a Person @ an Insanely Low Rate To Work Full Time, What Tasks Should He Do?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by bikerboy, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. bikerboy

    bikerboy Regular Member

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    This guy can work for me 6 to 9 hours a day, for 6 to 7 days a week.

    The thing is, he doesn't know anything about SEO.

    So I'm thinking, he's like a general worker, for starters.

    He can't write good articles, so no article marketing for him. :)

    What are things you would tell your virtual assistant to do?
     
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  3. neutralhatter

    neutralhatter Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I would watch out if I were you...
    I once hired someone to work for me, for a really low rate, but at the beginning you have to spend a lot of time teaching them and after a month or two when they realize their worth they ask for double....
    Best is always to go thru a company
     
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  4. englandrm

    englandrm Senior Member

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    Build backlinks, social bookmarking, video marketing, turning audio into text, keyword research, competition analysis, directory submissions, article submissions, rss feeds, etc. Most of those tasks require 5 minutes of training, or you can just find an ebook/video for them to learn from.

    Don't teach them everything, but one or two skills that will help you. It's tough coming up with jobs for VA's to do. Good luck.
     
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  5. englandrm

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    Ha, I just had one of my guys ask for a raise. An entire 50% increase in hourly wage. He isn't doing anymore work than before, and IMO, he has been slacking off all week. He is still 8 hours behind on work from last week, but wants the schedule for this week. I told him I would think about it.
     
  6. bikerboy

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    You guys are amazingly fast with your responses. Thanks.

    neutralhatter and englandrm,

    Where did you guys hire your workers from?

    This guy I'm hiring is from the Philippines.
    He sounded very honest, even wrote 5 sample articles for me upfront (initially I was looking for article marketing writers).

    He's just an 18-year old college kid.
    On a scholarship too. Haha.

    I'll keep your advice in mind since you guys have hired cheap VAs before.
     
  7. neutralhatter

    neutralhatter Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I know your situation engladrm..
    Afraid you won't be able to do much about it....
    you can try to give him some incentive to work harder.... like promissing that if his works makes you money, he might get an increase of salary...

    but if he has been slacking of, it's probably best to explore different possibilities, especially if the skills aren't unique....

    but always first make sure you get to a position he can't destroy your business...
     
  8. HeroWillDrown

    HeroWillDrown Junior Member

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    In my experience, low rate usually means low quality. But hey, you're free to give him a chance.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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  9. darkface

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    Sorry but why the fvck did you hire someone if you do not even know what to do with them? I am so sick of bvllshit like this. You are exactly what all those gurus out there are aiming at. You've got money so you spend it.

    To actually make money in IM you first work yourself, learn a method, learn its ups and downs. And then you hire someone to do the part of the method you can outsource easily. Don't just go and hire people without knowing what for. All you are doing is wasting your money.
     
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  10. anti_dote

    anti_dote Power Member

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    The only problem with such worker is that you can not depend on them. At this moment he might be a "NOOB" but imagine once you train him with all those stuff do you still think he would like to work under you ? for that price ? NO once he learns all that he would soon realize his worth and would disappear....
     
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  11. bikerboy

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    I had expected this type of response from the start.

    No problem. No offense taken.

    The whole hiring thing was impromptu. So I had to ask some of the guys who have done it, hiring super cheap VAs.

    Just wanted to know the best way to do things and learn from the experience of others, that's all buddy.

    I asked, I received. :)
     
  12. bhilo

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    Every thing is ok. But hiring students is not serviceable for getting continuous work. In general students will be occupied with their regular study assignments, exams and with hectic study schedules.
     
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  13. Book Writer

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    What bogs you down in your IM biz? What is it you hate doing, avoid doing, keeps you from making the max $$$$ in the time spent. These are questions and there may be more, you can ask yourself and that is what I would have him do for you. Keeping your focus on what you do that you love, are the best at and puts the most money in your pockets.

    You can put together some short videos of the mundane tasks, the stuff that has to be done that you do not want to do. In the end you will have training available for your next VA if you need it and in the process give yourself a clearer picture of your biz

    Good luck on your outsourcing.
     
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  14. edgematch

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    Totally different side of the story but, while mentioning about people please do not refer them like "things" rather than humanbeings. People are never cheap. they have their own life, values, family and society like all of us.

    Being born on a rich country will not give you any right or any superiority to judge people as cheap. 50 years later maybe, your children will be "much cheaper" for the sons of those "cheap" workers.
     
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  15. DigitalGangster

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    Lol tell me the post that refers to him as a "thing" all i see is him/he. You know when you refer to a "thing" you use "it" not "he" or "him".I am sure you havent forgotten ur basic english.
     
  16. bikerboy

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    Aite. I should have described him as an insanely low-pay worker, not cheap.
     
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    Give him time consuming but easy task like account creation, social marketing, and data entry kinda task
     
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  18. englandrm

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    I found mine on odesk, but actually moved them off of it. No odesk fees. Only move them off, when you can trust their work.

    And to Darkface, I agree entirely. All those gurus talking about outsourcing your lifestyle to do what you want. First, you need to understand the processes and how they work. Then only hire people if it makes sense. Yes, you can hire someone for $1/hr, but have them do work that actually matters. If you can't fill up their schedule, only use them part-time.

    I mainly use mine for SEO work, such as link building, for clients that have already paid me. The client pays me a certain amount which covers the hours my VAs work for them, the hours my VAs work for my personal sites, and leaves me a wonderful profit margin.

    I spend an hour or two a week filling up their schedules with work I want done, and they only get paid when I receive a detailed report of their work.

    For example, I recently took a job for $400/m, 4 ten hour weeks at $10 hour. Personally, I will not work for $10. My VAs cost less than $2/hr. I have them work 15/hrs for my client, 15/hrs for me, and I still make a $40+ weekly profit. Not counting the profit/benefits I receive from the backlinks to my own sites.

    Be a good middle man.
     
  19. jestercable

    jestercable Newbie

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    lol, mate...low rate usually means low quality...It's your cash mate, but I am talking from experience here. It's 5 years since I use online marketing and I used all kinds of people for article marketing and SEO. It took me long to find the right pros and for a year or so I stopped losing money and actually see some work done and proffit from it. So mate...do not waste any time.
     
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  20. atongalee

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    Hiring somebody and training them virtually could be risky becos when you add to their knowledge after while they will apply for other jobs virtually without your knowledge and add their new found skills to their resume.....

    I will suggest you look for someone local to you that you can put under your wings and train them to do the work and physically supervise them occasionally
     
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