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I have been trying to make money online for 7 Months - Want to know what I have learned? ?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by tony-raymondo, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    SEO is for wimps. The real money is in PPC.
    PPC is for wimps. The real money is in SEO.

    You need to write quality content that will last for decades.
    You need to build a network of autoblogs.

    The real money is in selling information!
    The real money is in selling physical products!

    That method worked 10 years ago. It doesn't work now.
    I've been using this method for 10 years and I'm a millionaire.

    That guru has ripped off millions of people.
    That guru changed my life.

    You need to hire foreign copywriters to do the hard work for you.
    I wouldn't publish anything I haven't written myself.

    Use social bookmarking to create an army of backlinks in minutes.
    Social bookmarking backlinks don't really affect your page rank.

    You can make money blogging.
    You'll never make money blogging.

    Most of my money comes from Adsense.
    Adsense doesn't work anymore.

    I only do Wordpress websites.
    I only do static websites.

    Make attractive websites and hire a professional designer.
    The ugly websites make the most money.

    Always implement a silo architecture.
    I never bought into the whole silo architecture thing.

    You mean you don't use NOFOLLOW tags?
    You mean you actually bother with NOFOLLOW tags?

    Only deploy one new page a day.
    I publish all my content on the first day.

    Domain age really matters you know.
    Domain age doesn't matter you know.

    You need to buy a good DotCom domain name.
    You can do all of this with free blogs.

    Dude, just buy a .info it doesn't matter!
    Dude, .info's get de-indexed don't you know that?

    I only trust the Google Keyword Tool.
    You really can't trust the Google Keyword Tool.

    The truth is, white hat marketers just don't make much money.
    The truth is, black hat marketers just don't make much money.
    The truth is, gray hat marketers just don't make much money.

    I always get Google-slapped when I do that.
    I've been doing that for ten years and I've never been Google slapped once.

    You really don't need to buy a lot of tools. Just use your head.
    You really need to know how to use your tools.

    I've made most of my money from Clickbank.
    I'm a reformed Clickbanker, I've seen the light.

    Making Money Online really is easy. I mean even my mom does it.
    The chances of you really making money online are pretty small.

    Sell ebooks! That's the fastest way.
    No one really buys ebooks anymore. Plus they're too easy to steal.

    You need to learn how to get that new Web 2.0 traffic.
    Web 2.0 is a myth.

    Submit your articles to every Article Directory you can find.
    Most Article Directories don't improve your rank much.

    You mean you still haven't subscribed to this service?
    You mean you actually subscribed to that service?

    You need to buy this tool now!
    Yeah that tool might have worked three months ago. Not now.

    You need to just get out there and start.
    You really need to know what you're doing before you dive in to this stuff.

    That doesn't work. I tried that.
    It works. I tried it.

    You should listen to him.
    You can listen to him if you want. But in my opinion you're wasting your time.

    Google is your best friend.
    Google is your worst enemy.

    I love Google.
    Fuck Google!

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    UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
    UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
    UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK ! ! ! ! ! ! !


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    "not listening!... not listening!..."


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    Seven months of learning MMO and i'm still an epic failure.

    On top of that, i'm a fucking computer genius with a university degree and I am an excellent web designer and programmer.

    And I can't make a red cent!

    And on top of all that, this hot girl I want to fuck put me in the friend zone.

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    FUCK MY LIFE!
     
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  2. twoj04

    twoj04 Power Member

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    Different strokes for different folks :D

    Pick one thing that interests you, such as autoblogging, and don't start anything else until you have made money. Then simply scale up whatever it is you are doing.

    Good luck $$$ :sombrero:
     
  3. xhizor99

    xhizor99 Junior Member

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    hey mate looks like we are on the same boat. I have been in IM for a while too now and haven't really made much. But I aint gona give up!!
     
  4. sidddd

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    Certain things mentioned in this post are incorrect.. but that's wat works for me. While I agree with 70% of the things mentioned by you. Anyway my shot..

    You need to hire foreign copywriters to do the hard work for you.
    Yes, sometimes. You save the time!

    Use social bookmarking to create an army of backlinks in minutes.
    It does.. for me it works.

    You can make money blogging.
    Yes, u can.. make automated money.

    Most of my money comes from Adsense.
    Adsense WORKS! I have made enuf of money from it without lifting a finger. So it definitely works with quality content.

    BTW, funny :D
     
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  5. c0nan

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    Ditto...

    I think because of the overload in information, and all the web experience,
    might have the mental effect of "MORE INFO" always seeking more AND BETER information. And Maby staring into the intellect wall as well.
    (i.e: I am highly educated in Internet stuff, this should be easy.)

    Subconsciously thinking: Nah...It can't be THIS easy...
    How can a website looking so mediocre and simple be successful.

    You attempt a Microsite in the Most Competative Niches, because the CPC is so NICE and high.

    Maby I should add a little bit of this, AND a little bit of that...
    Maby I should build a social website like Facebook...yeah let me try that...
    ****6 Months Later**** - Still working on the Facebook clone....fuck it is allot of work.
    ****1 Year Later**** - Still working on the Facebook clone...
    Screw it I'm getting bored.....Facebook clone trashed.

    So the other day I read a IM blog that stated the obvious...
    "STOP THE INFORMATION OVERLOAD."
    "BACK TO BASICS, KEEP IT SIMPLE"
    "YOU HAVE TO START, MAKE MISTAKES AND LEARN FROM THEM."
    "A MICROSITE SHOULD TAKE YOU NO LONGER THAN 1 WEEK TO BUILD"
    "LATER A MICROSITE SHOULD TAKE 1 DAY TO DEVELOP"
    "EVEN LATER 5 MICROSITES SHOULD TAKE 1 DAY TO DEVELOP"
    "MARKET YOUR MICROSITES DAILY"

    My Real Life examples of this Story:
    My OverSized Project:

    articaljar(dot)com

    My Over Eager Niche Micro site in the over competitive markets:

    ********.com/free-motgage-calculator (This one has been removed) ---(CPC +/- $30)
    best-cheap-insurance-quote(dot)com ---(CPC +/-$35)
    styleme(dot)info
    isthenews(dot)com

    all are dismal failures...up to date...

    I have read hundreds of the threads on BHW, and have NOT implemented any of the
    methods properly.

    So I have decided...(Actually I have been forced to decide. As My business faces Financial Ruin and I need To Start Doing things RIGHT... NOT NEXT MONTH, but NOW.

    So, enough of that soppy shit.

    Here is my plan.

    Lets Each pick a method, and attempt to follow it to the Letter.
    Then Post out feedback here on this Thread.

    I will spend the weekend reading up on some methods and start my plan of action on Monday.

    PM Me if you are interested.
     
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  6. kingbrend

    kingbrend Regular Member Premium Member

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    Good post, funny. :)

    Obviously people make money online or forums like this wouldn't exist.

    Stick to what you're good at, focus on one thing completely until you master it and then go to something else. I make money with EVERY method you mentioned, it's not for slackers I can tell you that.

    Oh and eBooks do make money, :p
     
  7. jmarin225

    jmarin225 Newbie

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    I just wanna say Hello, and I thing that the creator of this theme is a little crazy...

    BR.
     
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  8. SSL9000J

    SSL9000J Regular Member

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    Dude, you're gonna get through this. Trust me, I feel your pain! There's lots of scammers out there, but reliable honest information will rise to the top. You'll know it when you see it. Like everyone says, just pause for a moment, take a deep breath, and focus. The key to making it happen will be your intent. Concentrate your efforts, and you'll figure out the best and simplest solutions to make the dream a reality, tell yourself 'yes I will!' You'll be out of the friend zone in no time.
     
  9. ForeverNever

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    seriously how the fuck did the train get that messed up
     
  10. income2k

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    I was driving that train, trying to run over a cockroach.. :eek:
     
  11. deadster

    deadster Regular Member

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    the hard part in MMO is thinking out of the box and discovering what works.

    once you found out what works, then MMO becomes easy.
     
  12. ddawg0169

    ddawg0169 Newbie

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    Haha, I know how you feel Tman (can I call you Tman?) I feel the same way. I used to work for an agency (less than a year) and now I've decided to go at it solo. I'm just a beginner/intermediate programmer and like you, don't think I's is too dumb. I joined this site a while ago but now I've come back to actually learn. And it's like, where does the learning end?! There's so much to read and so many conflicting opinions...you don't know who to trust. And sometimes, it's not a trust issue. It's just that certain things work in certain fields and at certain times.

    These other guys are right in that you have to persist. Persist in 1 or 2 niches, at least to start with. Only then can you scratch things off the works/does not work list. Niches can of course be seen as either a vertical or a tactic.

    Other than that, here are my 2 deutschmarks: don't neglect people. Right now I'm making a living (barely) in a certain vertical using PPC. I have a private affiliate relationship that gives me a payout much higher than any network could offer and so it's much easier to be successful. I haven't even scaled yet. How did I meet this publisher? It's not that important. What's important is that I put myself out there and wanted to talk to people. He likes me, thinks my work is reasonably good, and now I have something profitable.

    It's the same deal with networks. Get in good with some managers. Show them you're not an idiot. Show them you're cool. They'll want to help you. Get on blogs you like and make some comments here and there. Take an active interest in developing relationships. If conferences come up, maybe you try and meet these online folks. You do have to offer something, whether it's know-how or just a likable personality, but the point is that you want to interact. As long as you're not a tool or tard, if you put yourself out there, you can get a lot back.

    P.S. Sorry about your girl. At least being friends is better than nothing. Hmm, I feel like I've seen that somewhere.
     
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  13. Sanitarium

    Sanitarium Regular Member

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    I guess making love to your eyes since you're read
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    Sounds like you're just getting ready to start man,
    btw - the internet is for pussies
    and the real world is for pussies
     
  14. sabul

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    bro..listen...believe me, i'm not a millionaire also but to correct just one from billions of reasons you held to us ..it's just one thing : SEO ..no black hat, no itsy bitsy or anything..just focus on SEO ...and setup a nice mini site selling ebooks for desperate people ...a niche that people rarely ventures, especially if you're excell on it and have all that pics, all that 'social proof' you can show to people who are not really buying at first, but since you 'open' yourself for people to contact you to see whether you exist or not or just a simple spammer ..and wallop $$$

    boy i've been doing this fucking shit for almost 5 years now and wallop...$100k

    its not much and heck i must say, in order to make that figure, you need to at least generate 20k per year with internet ...

    no "How i make $$$$$' kind of stuff , eventhough i know people in here are making $$$ in that niche, ..

    just sell ebooks ...yes adsense sucks right now, even by using BH , after getting almost $50 per day, still i got banned even before i can cash my money out on WU. yes i did many bad things in the past, but to just come to you and say, hey, this is the whole damn truth : money only comes large in buying and selling ..that's the fundamental truth that worked for ages and ages bro..

    this is my simple strategy to get $50 per day but to what extent ? only to be banned by google th next day ? i will post my earnings after this

    believe me ..enuff of ebooks and downloading stuff, that's eaten your hard disk space, day after day..STOP !! by all means...just take whatever important to you and forget all the bullshit, 10,00000 people in any forums in internet or from blogs that 'teaches you' the art of making money..

    just create an ebook of anything you know will sell well with moderate searches every month and with low competition, try to make that sale page up #1 in google or yahoo and see the money rolling in ...forget about blogs or whatever CMS unless you're that fuckin genius after all ..blogs are just blogs ..they don't really focus on selling ..it's the sales page, the traffic, and some follow up with great copy that will make you money..forget affiliate if you have been 10 years marketing and making just dollars away .. the money is in your selling ability...sell your own product..believe in yourself ..

    what you have learnt this years in enough to make you money bro..
     
  15. djelica

    djelica Junior Member

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    Im in same situation... after things i tried, like adsense, and cpa lead, i begin to ask myself, the question "Do i ever gonna make fucking money online?"...
    I am able to create websites great and ugly designed... i know html css (and a little php enough to edit templates for wordpress to one needed for my use)
    I have read tons of ebooks about seo and shit but still im like tard...
     
  16. sabul

    sabul Newbie

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    this is one example of a pure BH adsense earnings bro ..but to what extent ?

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    just to be banned by google the next day ?
     
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    onetoo3com Registered Member

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    Same here, sometimes I'm mixed up and confused other times it's easier I get muxed ip foncused, either way Never Ever Give Up.
     
  18. jamesmith

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    What action did you take?
    BHW members will analyze your work & suggest.
     
  19. sabul

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    and this one .. i managed to get $3000-4000 in one month this fuckin year...know what ? google just banned me 2 days before i can get the money out ... luckily i have ebooks to sell to support my rich lifestyle ..pure BH adsense really slaps me like bitch !! shit google !! but still, google still ranks my sales page first page #1 for ebooks, so to me...it's just luck bro ...huhu

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  20. promoi

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    I thought OP was hilarious. You are so right.
    I guess you just have to stop listening to everybody and find out what works for you.

    I don't think it matters how great of a programmer or designer or writer you are.

    Most people say that only gets in the way.

    Just having competent skills are all you need, and outsource the rest.