1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

i have a new product to sell, but

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by greentitanium, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. greentitanium

    greentitanium Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,141
    Likes Received:
    213
    Occupation:
    Prob the same as yours
    Location:
    Great Lakes & RTP
    after 2 years of not being able to find a fracking job,
    i have a job offer in marketing/sales.
    i KNOW i could hammer this into huge money via CL
    but if the company found out i was marketing like this
    they would not be happy. its a medical sales job and the
    company is based out of one of the biggest medical colleges.
    no spamming, but an actual product to sell directly to people, no bs.
    i can sell nation wide.

    over the last couple months i have read HUNDREDS of threads
    and since everything changes rapidly in the CL arena,
    i was wanting to fine tune this before i jump.

    i was doing some digging about whether i should go with clbotpro, clad, or human. there are of course TONS of threads about this, but most of them are a year old or so.
    i was JUST about to buy clad and i even went and got a sprint card a few days ago, now i read there are new issues with ip/geo.
    this stuff is changing so fast, as soon as i think i have figured out a little, WHACK, it changes again and leaves me spinning.

    should i quit fracking around and go CLAD?
    does anyone pay actual people to post for better results?
    vouch for anyone?
    i need to do this some how and keep it quiet from my company.
    the last thing i need is for a potential client calling and say, i saw your ad on CL! ouch! so i need to put a step or 2 between the ad and company i guess.

    i do have 2 servers with gator.
    im seriously considering paying people to post for me, to free up time
    and make sure they stick. i made the mistake of posting in the hiring section here and had a lot of scammers sending me frackin messages.

    one thing i dont see people talk a lot about here are private campaigns.
    me working directly with someone from here, perhaps.
    im guessing its hard to figure out how many click through or calls between 2 private people,
    but i would be VERY interested in hearing from people. i can pay per click, call, sale.
    i could pay up to 75.00 per sale. there is little competition and there is NO competition on CL and everything is straight. im guessing a 20% turn rate is realistic.
    -Greentitanium
     
  2. CYBERTRON

    CYBERTRON Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2009
    Messages:
    481
    Likes Received:
    269
    Occupation:
    CPA Network
    Location:
    USA / Indonesia
    Home Page:
    So why dont you setup thu hasoffers and start your own network. You can setup your own lander and payout.
    As for buying a cl poster or service, that depends on you. Are you able to post in your area without ghosts and pw resets? I would at the least, set up a white hat site and spoof your landers with this so that you company thinks the sales have come from there. So you will need some SEO work done too.
     
  3. CEPI

    CEPI Power Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Messages:
    502
    Likes Received:
    1,922
    Occupation:
    Business Turn Around & Management Consultant
    Location:
    Cosmos
    When you say "medical sales" are you speaking of a pharma or actual medical equipment? The reason I ask is because you need to take a close look at the demographic of your target customer and how they build trust.

    In most cases with medical equipment you are going to be looking at an older demographic that enjoys having face-to-face, phone or hard copy sales contact. I think with the amount of money you are going to spend on CL related items and the risk you are going to be leveraging since you said your employer would be upset, you may be better off doing a steady, very targeted, postcard campaign...

    I know, i know... many people think it's crazy, but they actually do work and can be very cost effective on higher end items like medical equipment. If you do a steady 6 month campaign you will be one of the top sales people in your company or at least well on your way. Consistency is key with direct marketing.

    Especially with an older demo, I think spending a lot of money on CL might not be hitting your customer no matter how you slice it. Again, I am not sure exactly what you are selling with regard to "medical sales" so this is just speculation.

    Number one rule in marketing is to KNOW your buyer and mentally get in their shoes before starting ANY campaign. "I'm 73 years old, I am reliant on a breathing machine, and I get the mail everyday hoping somebody will write to me.... oh I better check Craingslist"... probably not so much.

    Again if this isn't your demographic sorry I wasted your time, LOL
     
  4. businessminder

    businessminder BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2009
    Messages:
    243
    Likes Received:
    369
    Can't you not leave a trace so the company can't "prove" that the leads coming from CL are generated from you?

    Do people have to call in and make a purchase or can they just purchase online?
     
  5. greentitanium

    greentitanium Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,141
    Likes Received:
    213
    Occupation:
    Prob the same as yours
    Location:
    Great Lakes & RTP
    thanks.
    yeah, im not that green, lol.
    my demo is 20 to 40. its more towards the equip area.
    i have several ideas for marketing but CL would be the biggest payout, easily. just trying to figure out the best approach.



     
  6. greentitanium

    greentitanium Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,141
    Likes Received:
    213
    Occupation:
    Prob the same as yours
    Location:
    Great Lakes & RTP
    "has offer" sounds like the first thing i need to check into. thnx
    i can post locally, no prob.
    i actually have 7 or 8 cl accounts that are pvas i have been using for 3 different states with no ghosting, (knock on wood!!) i used my familys phones to get them. (people who would never use cl: grandmother, 11 year olds with cell phones, 3 of my own numbers, etc)

    but i need to go big time. id like to hit every us city if possible.
    then renew the active bigger cities that are heavy with cl.
    its crazy how some big cities STILL dont use CL. blows my mind.




     
  7. greentitanium

    greentitanium Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,141
    Likes Received:
    213
    Occupation:
    Prob the same as yours
    Location:
    Great Lakes & RTP
    as of now, its 100% call in.
    this will change if i have any say in the next 6 months.



     
  8. businessminder

    businessminder BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2009
    Messages:
    243
    Likes Received:
    369
    Oh that's a problem then, since the prospects have to identify referrals verbally over the phone.

    Perhaps you can try instead of having your call to action on CL, use CL as a traffic source that brings in prospects to your website where the call to action is, provided that the website meets all the technical and legal requirements of the products the company sells.

    Would your company be okay with that? The conversions will drop but at least you're not directly promoting them via CL. It's like buying PPC traffic...etc. and CL would just be one of the traffic sources.
     
  9. greentitanium

    greentitanium Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,141
    Likes Received:
    213
    Occupation:
    Prob the same as yours
    Location:
    Great Lakes & RTP
    Yeah, exactly.
    I had considered that.
    I even thought about hiring a girl just to do something like that.
    Take the initial call, get the info and then forward to a sales person.