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I got my first song mastered on fiver !!! Wanna help me promote (rap )

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by chrisis4ever, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. chrisis4ever

    chrisis4ever Regular Member

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    It sounded OK'ish but if you want your music taken seriously then you need to pay a professional for mastering and post production.
    I am not an expert so don't know the terminology but all the channels seemed to be at the same volume level.
     
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    Being a musician myself, I will give you some "constructive criticism".

    For a rap tune, it's okay, but it kind of "hobbles" along. You need
    to add more instrument layers toward the end of the track to
    give it some kind of climax, and possibly some background
    vocal harmonies as the song builds (maybe almost like a choir).

    The doubled lead vocals need to be tightened-up. They are
    a bit loose. Also, be careful of your vocal leads. They tend
    to drift off-note here and there (mainly sharp - not flat).

    FINAL NOTE: If you are passionate about creating and
    performing in the rap genre, all the more power to you.
    You have potential, but you need to keep working at
    your craft and polishing your skills. Kudos to you for
    having the guts to put it out there for us to review.

    Believe in yourself and keep moving forward.

    Best of luck to you, my friend! :)
     
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    I like it. Sounds good. Did you get the 2 girls for your YouTube commercial from Fiverr too?
     
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    Wiz is RIGHT on. I like the guitar and the beat, but you are sharp in multiple places. Keep working at it, I hear potential for sure.
     
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    Thats not bad buddy, i listened until the end which is rare for me, especially with the crap that's getting churned out these days.

    I aint no pro so i wont try to give you any tips. Wiz probably nailed it with his comment.

    Little work needed but not miles off the finished product. Good luck buddy
     
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    Overall, it could be tighter, a lot tighter. Those doubles need to be on point or it will be a jumbled mess, and it certain sections you are fighting with yourself in the doubled take since they are almost the same level, (ie -- not mixed correctly). Was this track mixed at all or just mastered?

    Maybe instead of doubling the entire verse (not easy), try spot ad-libbing, and double only say the punch lines, or ends of phrases... much easier.

    Another thing is the singing sections needs some autotune to correct the flatness in your voice, and add a little harmony --again why I asked if they mixed it, as they should have heard it like we are hearing it.

    The volume of the main vocal is good, nice and dominant but entire track needs a good mix session.
     
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  9. chrisis4ever

    chrisis4ever Regular Member

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    Thanks . i will take any feedback i can get.
    Yes i got the two girls from fiver . thank you for tthe mixing advice . Im gonna get it mixed by someone else and mastered again .
     
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    very nice I love the beat :)
     
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    The beat is pretty awesome! Send me the vocals and I can pitch correct and tighten them a bit.
     
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    The mixing and engineering: 4/10
    The writing: 7/10
    The rapping: 6/10
    Male singer at high key: 1/10
    Mastering can't be scored w/out a pre-master but the fact you went to fiver: 1/10

    A few tips:

    1) Whatever you did to the vocal destroyed the entire track. It sounds like you ran the shit through a waves tripler preset... or stereo widened the field to hell and back. The main vocal NEEDS to be center so that's just bad mixing.

    2) If you can't sing high notes don't sing high notes or get singing lessons before you ever try singing high notes again.

    3) You're bouncing your head from the mic. Not a lot but it's happening and needs to stop.

    4) The mic itself sounds cheap. This could my misinterpretation of whatever shitty fxs were added pre-master but it doesn't sound like it was recorded with a quality mic in a proper booth. And you don't need a booth to get clear, sharp vocals but something about the mic or engineering makes the vocal sound colored and cheap. It's missing high end and doesn't sound eq'd right. I'd take the main vocal, immediately put it in mono, eq out some mids, add some overdrive on the high end and an exciter. Whatever else is going on other than the main vocal ... it's messy. You can try flipping poles but really I have no idea how it's layed out so I can't offer any real advice. I just know the mixing and engineering on the vocals is distracting. There are ways to add fxs to make vocals sound better then there are ways to add fxs to make vocals sound worse and I'm hearing too much of the latter.

    5) Kick drum isn't popping out like it should. Lacks dynamics (transients) and bass.

    6) I should have mentioned this first as it was the first thing I noticed, but the PITCH isn't even close to key and that's a serious problem. You gotta learn to sing on key. If you can't, run the vocal through melodyne to know what key you're actually singing on. Then spent a few hours fixing that shit.

    7) This isn't a huge problem but I don't hear the bassline at all.

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    I could go on all day but let me add a few last things.

    First, you're never gonna make money in rap. Let's just be real and acknowledge that the music industry, nevermind the rap industry, is by far the most ruthless, cut throat, broke ass industry in the world. You'd make more money pan handling or selling samples in the long run so do NOT expect to earn any money. That is, directly with your music. Indirectly, if you build up a fan base you can monetize tutorials / sell off custom samples or file projects on your site. Some of the best rappers in the world, guys with voices 1000xs better than this, who have direct connections to the industry still won't make it.

    However, you sure as hell know how to write music. I rarely if ever compliment most the shit music posted on this forum but you do know how to write. That is obvious. The melodies are good. The intro caught me off guard. The lyrics are good. The structure is good. And even though the production, mixing, engineering and mastering are weak, you were able to create a track that sounds like real music. The biggest problem you're gonna face is the engineering side of things. If you used FL Studio (which most rap artists do) I'd love an FLP in zip format. Cause there is no point, no use, no logical reason to master a track that is off key and has so many problems from a production stand point. But I can take this track, reengineer and master it the proper way. I have 14 years experience sound engineering as a hobby and make money selling samples, software and flp's. I don't sell mastering services but will do this pro-bono and post the new track in here. Only if you want and only if the track was made in FL Studio or Reason.

    Good luck,

    -BB
     
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  13. chrisis4ever

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    The way I mixed it the doubles and mismatch points were blended with the various shades of frequencies removed during mastering which exposed a lot of ugliness from my mix.
     
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    Instruments too far back. It lacks teeth, especially dynamics. Seems like it's been mixed too much. Vocals not together, not solid, even if it's just you multiple times. Effects added here and there on one vocal would probably be way better. You could add different effects on your voice and timeshift/fade then in/out. Bad pitch issues. Not impressed with the girls, or the final product.

    I wouldn't even consider mastering this... it just isn't ready. But, you've got something good here. It just needs to be re-done and done right.

    Do you have access to a VoiceLive Rack, AutoTune, Compressors LA2A/1176LN? What do you have to work with. Do you even have a good mic for starters?

    I don't know what you used. Either your equipment isn't good, or it's not being used correctly. I can't blame it on the final mastering, because it wasn't ready for mastering.

    Don't give up on this... come back and show us what you got. It looks promising.