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I got hit - Pure spam penalty - looking for some answers

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Aatrox, May 15, 2016.

  1. Aatrox

    Aatrox Supreme Member

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    Woke up 2 days ago, earnings were low, checked the sites, all are up, checked the stats, all are down. Check serpbook saw this:

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    5 sites of mine got hit by "Pure spam" penalty. In the description it says that they found gibbersih, scraped and copied content. Well, how the fuck because all of the content is unique and written by me? All the domains got hit on the same day even though they are not linked together. Here are the details:

    • 3 of the domains are hosted on one reseller account (hidden behind CloudFlare)
    • I did NOT use spun/copied/generated content on those sites
    • those 5 sites share only 2 domain registers
    • sites are all older than 1 year and ranked for that time as well

    I'm wondering how can 2 sites that are not on the same hosting, get hit by the same thing even though it's not true since the content was unique and mine alone? Another cool fact is that I got penalty on 6th site as well. From #3 it dropped to #50+, but the penalty is "Unnatural links". That site also got hit on the same day.

    What I'm trying to figure out is how did 6 of my sites managed to get hit in the same time? Did someone somehow managed to see all of my sites and then reported those? Did Google knew that those sites are from one guy despite using different mails, hostings, purchase dates? And why did I got that "Pure spam" penalty because there is not copied, generated or gibberish content on my sites?
     
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  2. askary

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    how did you build links for these sites?
    did you delete txt, mx etc records from cloudflare?
    is content still unique?
     
  3. drogon

    drogon Elite Member Premium Member

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    I think this might all be related to backlinks though they give different reasons. Do you have your own PBN (any deindexed?) and do you link all your sites to your PBN? If so that is the footprint and reason.
     
  4. LatteGrande

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    It could be a false alarm as I have friends who managed to get their sites back after they sent messages to Google team to clear things up. They also provided proofs that their sites have unique content via Copyscape and Google. In the end, the penalty was lifted. I suggest you to contact them and doing the same thing.
     
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  5. mickyfu

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    You think Google cares what sites they take down?They take them and use a bog standard response to justify their actions. Your sites are what is known as collateral damage. The reason why I will not waste my time with a "Google loved website". Nice to see Google in the news recently getting kicked in the dick over Monopoly abuse.
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.te...web-search-monopoly-abuse/amp/?client=safari#
     
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  6. Aatrox

    Aatrox Supreme Member

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    I build manual and automated. Unique content. I didn't delete anything. And yes it is unique.

    PBN is still good. Not all of the sites are linked from one PBN so there is that as well. You think it's link related as well?

    I submitted a review on two sites just to see if something is gonna happen. I highly doubt it though.

    Ahhh, I know they don't care. Just wanted to mention that.
     
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  7. xplosiv

    xplosiv Power Member

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    That is definitely not good mate, I feel your pain. However, there has got to be a common thread that got your site booted. Did you use purely PBN links to rank?

    Or did you build a diverse link profile with profile links, branded links, web 2.0's, guest blogs, authority sites, forums etc?

    And for the love of god, tell me you didn't have them all in the same webmaster tools account.

    Anyway, it would be good for all of us to find out why sites get hit - let us know.

    RE: The Google fine - thank fucking christ... all of us in web search know that there has been a lot of manipulation going on in search, it's about time they paid for their bullshit. Penguin is a nightmare for any small business owner with dickhead cometition and wastes everyones time and money involved, and keeps the big boys fat and happy because they don't need to worry about it due to their huge link profiles and authority. At the same time it prevents small businesses from growing productively and big businesses booming = anti-competitive behavior. Also, the relentless Amazon ass-kissing will hopefully come to an end, I am sure the EU are fully aware that they are partners with Google as well.

    Cheers
     
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  8. Aatrox

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    Not all of them were on one hosting, 3 of them were on reseller account, separate accounts, behind CloudFlare. Yeah, I'll update if I get any news on this. I'm still looking what might caused this penalty. And I did build your normal backlinks - bookmars, web 20, profiles... all of that. And PBN to mix it up. PBN is still indexed and other sites that I used the same domain to rank, are rankings, no problems there so I guess it's not PBN related issue.
     
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    Check with site:<yourdomain> to see if you have been hacked and are generating crap content. If that's the case, clean up the malware, and submit a reconsideration request - if that was the reason you'll be back on top making money in no time.
     
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    All the sites are deindexed and not showing any results. :(
     
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  11. askary

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    automated links, bookmarks, profiles in 2016)) and you wondering why you are hited?
     
  12. myopic1

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    Whether Google operates in this way and penalizes websites for this is speculation on my part but when you link to 2 money sites from 1 PBN you establish a relationship between those money sites, that part is fact. The more websites you establish this pattern from, the more statistically significant that relationship becomes, as an extreme example of this 10 websites link to the same 2 money sites for me would create a pretty obvious 'network' effect if you're looking to analyse things purely from a mathematical view point (which Google does).

    To me it seems a logical step to have an algorithm that looks for this type of behavior, that looks for the 'N' in PBN and sends any potential websites found by such an algorithm for manual review, nice and easy. So to answer your original question, is it link related, I would be amazed if it wasn't or if that doesn't happen.
     
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  13. Aatrox

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    Cmon. You're telling me that those links are bad?

    You think? Like I said, not all of the sites that link form PBN were hit so I wonder, how can some get penalty and others don't? And why did I then get "Pure spam" penalty and not "Unnatural links"? That's whats bothering me. It could be that, but then the penalty doesn't make sense. But then again, content is good, unique and hand written with good English, don't know why I got that penalty. I guess it's only link related then.
     
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  14. bianconeri10

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    I got hit also 2 days ago. Same with you, my site is totaly disappeared from Google. I don't do SEO so I don't have any backlink, pbn, etc. But my content is auto generated and there's few with same content and only different in title. I'm planning to fix my site (delete and redirect same post) and then submit for reconsideration. Let see how that works out.
     
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    Ugh that sucks man. I hope you get it figured out.
     
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    Pure spam may mean that your website got hacked and tons of shit you don't know about have been posted on the site. It can be a reason. Beside that, how many 404 errors you have ? Have you scrutinized GWT to find any anomalies that could trigger this Google penalty?

    Well auto generated content? That's not the same story. You're doing shit, you got shit back. That's karma.
     
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    Same thing happen to me about a month ago 3 websites got hit on the same day, and then 3 more day after that. 4 of these websites were ranked in top 3, and another two were not ranked at all, on of which didn't even had any backlink build to it. All of these websites got deindexed and got "pure spam" penalty. They were on different hosting accounts, 3 different domain registrars with whois protection enabled, I didn't use WMT or GA on them, all with unique and hand written content, and the only thing I found they have in common is that all of these websites were more then 2 years old, nothing else. They had pretty much different links and on four of those websites I didn't build any link in the past 1 and a half year, IDK what could trigger this, but it lost me some serious passive income.
     
  18. whackhat

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    Have you checked that you haven't been targeted with negative SEO by someone?
     
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    ^^^THIS - Along with your own ban OP, is ALL the proof you should need to understand that it's time to change your philosophy.

    The problem is that most of us are reasonable. We can't "comprehend" google doing things like this to us. We rationalize that "our" sites are actually BETTER than the shit results Google spits out for our keywords. Why on earth would they want to nuke us?

    STOP. Just STOP.

    Stop trying to understand WHY they do shit like this. Stop trying to "fix" something that isn't broken.

    Accept Reality. YOU (nor I nor others here) can NOT control what Google does nor when it does it. If we wish to rank in organic google serps, we are ALL at their mercy at the end of the day.

    The KEY is not only to accept that, but let it permeate your business strategy from here forward. For some that means abandoning google all together and living off other search engine traffic. Or it could mean trying to build a successful advertising biz vs. relying on serps for traffic. Or it could mean you choose to blast that bastard google with all kinds of SPAMMY sites let the chips fall where they may. After all if you're going to get banned for "spam" the least you can do is make sure you're doing your part, right? That's my favorite way! It's up to you, of course.

    I would suggest you change "something" though because experience has now shown you that there is no "right" way. Those who preach about "great" content for google are morons IMO. Content is either for the user/visitor or for the search engine. Period. If all you care about is the user taking some action once they hit your page (clicking a link, signing up for a list, etc.) than I'd suggest you worry a LOT less about content and a LOT more about "how" to get them to take action. If you want TRUE user engagement as part of your marketing strategy, then do the exact opposite.

    Always up to you, the marketer, of course. Choose wisely and best of luck to you.

    Con

    P.S. Welcome to the bent over by Google club. Notice they don't use any lube and could care less if you liked it? Good....now make sure you could care less the next time they come after you!
     
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  20. DigitalCon

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    I always keep getting hit for pure spam, gibberish content. I don't trust google at all hence i always have a few website in the process. Forget about the site thats gone and moveon with a new one.