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I got all of my 400+ acc banned becouse of FollowLiker

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  1. wizard04

    wizard04 Elite Member

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    I am opening this thread to tell my latest experience and advice concerning FL, this is not a bashing thread as I still think FL is one of the best bots out there and I hope it will continue.

    My biggest reason for opening this thread is becouse FL never admits that the faults from there side and its time they do, becouse its the only way they will start looking on how to improve it not just to make minor updates that does not have anything to do with the new algorithm updates that the social platforms are lolling out.


    I will state my facts why I thing that the mass ban on all of my acc are contributed to FL and you decide and I believe that a representative of FL will come here and say its becouse of me, etc.

    As most of some of you know I had a twitter journey that I started like a year ago and moved on few other niches and accumulated approximately 500 acc +/- over time with starting new niches.

    A few days ago all of my accounts where instantly banned in the same time ( literally same time like few min apart ) after I decided to close FL for an update and started the accounts again. Let me be clear 400+ accounts are banned in the same time instantly and this is not one big niche, different niches, different sites, different proxies, etc.

    I contacted weblues explaining my issue and he said its me and probably my proxies and I did explain him again with more information and still its my proxies or something but not FL. I will give you the same information maybe better presented and you decide if its the proxies.

    1. I am running different niches.
    Non of the niches are connected and all are doing there own thing.

    2. I am running with private proxies from 2 different suppliers.
    This is the easy est way to deny everything by saying its a bad proxy provider but hey I have two.

    3. I am running accounts for a year with the same proxies with no issue.
    I never change proxy they are like married. I don't have no need changing proxies if the proxies is working fine and I have lot of them that are running for a year now with the same proxies.

    4. I use multiple hosting services

    5. I use multiple domains, I usually assign one website/domain to around 20-30 accounts.

    6. I am using different domain registrars.

    7. I use different following / unfollowing settings depending of the niche ( but usually is below 400 for most of them )

    8. I use different tweeting schedules and settings also depending of the niche.

    9. I also have new accounts that have only 2-3 some more some less tweets.
    usually is a niche related pics or text tweets with no links.

    You know what all of this niches/acc have in common all of them are banned in the same time after I started FL. But you know what is interesting? I forgot to start one of the projects with 20 acc and they didn't get banned.


    The good news they are not permanently banned. I need to log in in every acc and manually remove the ban by selecting this was a mistake and that if happened again I will get permanently banned, the pic is bellow to see.

    ban.jpg

    Now weblues is saying this is a obvious sing that its becouse you where spamming but remember I have lot of accounts for a new niche that are not even tweeting. Also I tweet like every 90-150 min on most of my acc and its not only links and the links are niche appropriate.

    What I also noticed with FL instagram is that I decided to run the accounts for 8-10 hours a day instead 24/7. So every night when I was turning on the FL for IG I had multiple phone verification requests and from time to time a permanent ban.
    What is interesting is after I realize something might be wrong with FL I stopped turning off FL and leave it running and from then I didn't jet received a phone verification request.


    My few advice's to all of you that are running FL:

    -Don't stop FL only if you really really must.
    -If you need to start FL. Start the schedules one by one like in 20-40 min difference apart.






    My suggestion is that the FL staff should start making big updates according the new algos and not just rudely denying any blame.
     
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  2. Hawkster

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    Seems clear to me from the image that twitter thought you were spamming? Not sure how its FL's fault
     
  3. wizard04

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    This is the same message for all of the accounts, even for those I am not event tweeting, but I understand that people will find everything else as excuse except for the bot.
     
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    I've raised similar concerns many times in this forum, and most times I was made to believe that it had something to do with what i was doing rather than the bot itself! But now after reading your post I feel I was right in the first place!! Its high time FL did something about this!!
     
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    I agree we need to highlight the issues and demand fixes.
     
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    What Useragent does FL uses / appear to use?
    Anyone knows?

    Or does it change randomly from a pool of the most common ones (this would be good)?
     
  7. Capo Dei Capi

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    Does the newest version give you an option to auto increase and decrease rate of follow,unfollow,tweet etc. based on time of the day? That seems like something that twitter may be looking at.
     
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    Yeah FL can make improvements but they refuse to.
     
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    You have ranges, its really good. But I think the problem is in the little things such as logging in.

    Let say the new twitter algo is monitoring logging, do you think it won't recognize a pastern?

    Always clicking on the same spot, always pasting the username and password in just seconds or less, etc.
     
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    Capo Dei Capi BANNED BANNED

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    I know there's ranges but can the ranges change based on time day,

    Something like 8am -5pm may have a range of 30-40 6pm to 10pm may have a range of 15-30. And 12am to 6am may have a range of 300-600.

    It seems like that in addition to randomizing the time for each account to log in, would also increase how natural it appears to twitter.
     
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    I understand you and where you are coming from as I had the similar problem with FL and got mass banned and I gave up on it and moved on to other things, Had the accounts on proxies on a 1:1 ratio and got them all banned. I contacted FL and they got pretty upset that I said there's something wrong with their bot and no fixes have been made since then it seems. For whatever reason they are strongly believing it's not their software which in this case it is as a lot of other people have had similar issues. I hope they'll fix it.
     
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    I have a website that accepts comments. It uses no captcha or other touring test. The site does check the IP address against a large list of proxies from several spam forums and proxy forums/lists. The site gets about 1 spam comment per month because almost all proxy IP addresses are known.

    Just sayin...
     
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  13. redarrow

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    How do you lot continue to blame a bot ,
    it you who setup the bot and the way
    you use it and the settings you set....

    you buy accounts that are double verified.
    all accounts must be bio filled in correctly.
    you add a picture female better they say.
    You use the same ip you created accounts or use one ip per account.
    you follow ppl under 300 a day only
    you do not comment or unfollow
    you stretch the times you follow over a whole day
    you use virgin ip addresses for each account
    you use a good vpn and automate the whole process

    Each account i get to 25k i start another to 25k untill i hit 1 million per niche.

    sit back watch the numbers grow then send a link
    to gain traffic.

    there nothing wrong with the bot at all, it your settings guaranteed...

    you lot need to do your own split testing before moaning , hand feeding not going to work as the method to not get ban change all the time but it you who needs to run tests over time to see what works best.

    followliker is used via some of the best internet marketers around all they continue to do is praise the apolication and thank the creators for making there life so much easer to earn a buck or two....

    learn ==>succeed ==>bank ==>then bank harder ....
     
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  14. Galleta

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    Anyone?
    Also interesting would be things like this (they can all be identified by a website):

    WebRTC on or off (It can identify real IP address, even though proxy or VPN is in use!)
    Java on or off?
    MAC-Address?
    UserAgent?
    WindowSize?
    Addons installed in browser?
    Operating System?

    How does FL fake this infromation?

    This is most likely the reason, as it is much easier / common for any webserver to read this information and not difficult or ressource intensive AT ALL to store that information in a database together with user-ID, time stamp etc...
    Easier than measuring where and how fast a user clicks at least.

    regards
     
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    I stop Ig version on a daily basis for editing and stuff and no problems, I only get pass resets/phone ver. if I leave some proxy footprints manually

    But it's true they don't want to accept their mistake, I lost a month of automation becuase they weren't in a mood to fix my license and that costed me a lot of engagement rate
     
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    Read your post on the IG section...

    I feel sorry for you almost losing all your accounts.

    It's quite interesting how there are so many people (especially people with experience) that blame a bot to be the cause for the ban, but the bot owner still continues making excuses and trying to blame others for (probably) their fault.

    Since there are more and more people complaining about FL, they should really take the time and review what they are doing. So many people doing the same mistake is somehow impossible.

    Considering there are lots of threads created at the same time of people getting PW resets and stuff when using FL.

    FLs developer(s) should show much more respect towards their customers and maybe - maybe just once - admit that they might be doing something wrong and that they'll review the case.

    Never seen a post of the developer(s) admitting they've done a mistake. Doing mistakes is human and would be much more appreciated by many of us than always blaming others.

    I don't even wanna know how many have invested more and more money requesting new proxies because FL told them it was because of "bad" proxies and shit...

    but yeah, people who use bots must always take the risk of getting banned.
     
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    Yeah you're telling that to the guy running over 400 accounts over the past year.
     
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    Then it's time to try Twitter Money Bot also for you guys. Maybe you were giving lots of footprints to the twitter. Be careful.
     
  19. wizard04

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    I am using private dedicated proxies that are not flagged by twitter and for lot of accounts I am using them more then a year.
    There is a difference between private/dedicated proxies and public one that you can scrape with any scraper.

    Read my post again, obviously you didn't even read it or you are just ignorant but in the end everyone is entitled to there own opinion.
     
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    I want to know the same.
    Other possible issues are wrong proxy handling or wrong post handling.

    wizard04, can you cnonfirm, than you do not posted the same site/message on all accounts?

    btw from over 1 year twitter users sends messages trough 3th party programs (or maybe this programs are twitter apps), where require to click on link and confirm with captcha you are not a bot.
     
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