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I don't want to spam this forum. But the filter and JrVIP are encouraging me.

Discussion in 'Forum Suggestions & Feedback' started by grnydrowave, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. grnydrowave

    grnydrowave Newbie

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    I have no idea why more than half of my posts get flagged. I have tried to identify words that are offending the filter and change them around, but to no avail. I am not promoting anything or trying to post links.

    I understand why these measures are taken, and I imagine that you might be tired of hearing people complain about it, but please understand that users like me are more or less locked out. The forum is virtually unusable. And worst of all, there is no recourse.

    By that, I am referring to JrVIP. I had hoped that joining would end my filter woes, allow me to contribute to this community, give me access to a great resource (it was a decent value at WF, so I can only assume it's twice as good here), and prove that I'm not a spammer.

    But to do that, I am required to have 100 posts. This makes no sense to me. I only want to post messages when I have relevant questions or something substantive to add to the discussion. As an example, I have been active at another forum that I love (football related) for over 6 months, and I have less than 100 posts there.

    The only realistic way for me to get JrVIP anytime soon on BHW would be to clutter this forum with useless posts (short posts appear less likely to get flagged), and I have no desire to do that. Even if I were the patient type and willing to wait a year or longer to move beyond 3rd-class citizenship, it wouldn't be possible because the spam filter wouldn't even allow me to make 100 quality posts.

    I humbly submit 2 requests:

    1. Please grant me an exception to joining JrVIP.

    2. If you're not willing to make the spam filter more lenient (which is understandable), please at least rethink the JrVIP restriction. I know I'm not the only one who feels ostracized by this.

    If anyone read this, thanks for hearing me out.

    EDIT: I am amazed and relieved that this post actually got through. I was worried that I might have to break it up into sections to get through the filter. :)
     
  2. deviatus

    deviatus Power Member

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    lol... spam blackmailing your way to JrVIP?

    My posts never get flagged, lots of smart people don't have problems. Don't spam post.
     
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  3. grnydrowave

    grnydrowave Newbie

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    Please don't misunderstand. I'm not threatening to spam post. I already said that I have no desire to do that. If the only way to get out of spam-filter hell is to increase my post-count, then I'm just going to give up. I am merely pointing out that post restrictions are a motivator to spam. That's probably why you see a ton of one line posts in threads with things like "thanks, bro" or "this is great".

    Also, I do like to think of myself as a smart guy. Apparently I'm just not smart enough to figure out what I've been doing wrong to upset the spam filter.

    EDIT: And in case I made it unclear, I'm only asking for an exception to the post restriction for JrVIP. I'm still willing to pay for it. Come to think of it, this is the first time I've ever had to ask permission to buy something.
     
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  4. grnydrowave

    grnydrowave Newbie

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    Sorry, I didn't do my homework on this. I just noticed that there is also a time restriction for JrVIP, which I am also ineligible for. I suppose it is intended to be exclusive.

    I'll just go back to lurking. :(
     
  5. chucka95

    chucka95 Newbie

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    I could personally care less about the Jr. VIP myself. But every once in awhile I have something of value to offer and can't get it past the filters--and I'm following the rules.

    Perhaps these should go to a moderator for review instead of an automated system?

    Best,

    Chuck
     
  6. grnydrowave

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    Nah, that would create a massive workload for the moderators. We can't really expect them to personally review every post that gets flagged.

    The filter is in place for good reason. Communities like this are a natural magnet for scumbags, scammers, and spammers. That has to be kept in check. Unfortunately, I don't know how that can be done without locking out well-intentioned users like us. I guess we just have to be thankful to read the forum and occasionally get a post in.
     
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    bigpurpleguy Junior Member

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    Promise?
     
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  8. grnydrowave

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    Yeah, mostly. I'll probably post sparingly here and there. I just won't be posting about IM in very much depth, since that seems to be what triggers the filter.

    I haven't had any trouble posting to this thread. If I use any services or products by BHWers, I may post reviews if I can do so using very general terms. Maybe I'll chime in on some of the off-topic subforums if the mood strikes.
     
  9. Migladon

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    The 100 post requirement refers to helping members through useful posting. A Jr.Vip should contribute to the forum. I think this rule should stay.

    I understand your dilemma but I would be patient and just browse sections of your expertise and try to help people out.

    You'll get 100 posts in no time!

    Cheers!
     
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    lol

    Spamming our forum for a good cause?! :D Hope you don't become the first banned pre-Jr.VIP in the making. ;)

    Take a holy dip man, spamming BHW is an unpardonable sin, don't even think about it, whatever the mouthwatering part. :)

    Contribute towards helping the members or just read and comment in a relevant way. You will reach your goal in no time.
     
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  11. grnydrowave

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    Yeah, I didn't understand that before, but I do now. I was thinking of JrVIP as a means of fixing my account and unlocking some content. I see now that it's meant to be much more than that. I withdraw the request.

    It's a funny conundrum though. I am never going to be able to contribute anything remotely useful with the filter in place. So far all I've been allowed to do is whine in this thread and post very short, general messages.

    If I wanted to share some new twist on site flipping or how I increased my adsense conversions or anything like that, I'd be prohibited from doing so. Ironically, it is only the short, off-topic, spammy messages that are allowed through. :)
     
  12. Delboy2424

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    Of course you can, be constructive and not destructive in your posts and you thread count will soon increase

    This wont help you get to where you want to be if sharing and being involved is what you want - lurkers do not make a forum.

    Just get involved and before you know it you will be wondering what your rants were for.....
     
  13. pisco

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    I've had one encounter also with the filter, think it had something to do with me thanking for something, although i did add some more value to the post; either way never a problem since that one so cannot complain.
     
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    I don't think that in any of my posts I had a problem and i posted over 500. I never got a filter message either
     
  15. grnydrowave

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    I believe the filter is a fairly new thing. Also, I am beginning to suspect that this is being imposed on newer accounts with low post counts. Established users with more than a few hundred posts don't seem to have any problems whatsoever, while most of the complaints are being made by newbs like me.

    Pardon me for repeating myself. But I am literally incapable of doing so. Believe me, I have tried. Any time I post more than a paragraph about something IM-related I get flagged.

    This is getting back to why I started this thread. As I just noted, the system does not allow me to post anything useful or relevant. If "being involved" and reaching a specific number of posts is the solution to escaping spam-filter hell, then the only way to get around it is to post garbage.

    Out of respect (because I do love this forum) I would rather lurk (mostly) and accept the fact that I'm not welcome here, than clutter threads with one-liners. At the moment, I am not especially knowledgeable about IM, so this is no great loss for BHW. But it is very unfortunate if users with a lot to contribute are being turned away because of this.
     
  16. anti_dote

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    Well i think that to become a JR.Vip now you do not need 100 posts(i may be wrong) coz today only i saw a girl with 16 post who became JR.Vip maybe some mod can clear this out for us and yeah you need atleast 15 posts to get rid of these filters :D
     
  17. srb888

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    Looks like you have some great techniques! I'm all ears then! :D Open a thread in a relevant forum here if you feel so, and try to help others through it. People here are great and will definitely like what you have to say. It will/may also increase your count and get you to nearer that mark. On the lounge though, your post count does not increase.
     
  18. nycwriter

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    Just participate in the community-- help people out, talk to people, learn things, thank people-- it's not that hard to get to 100, and you should be participating that much if you want to get up to Jr. VIP.
     
  19. Leafgreen

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    looks like you are doing ok here! Lots of posts.

    Yes I have also gotten some of my posts filtered. It appears that you cannot mention any domain names (even the most common) and tld's.

    Anyway, listen to nycwriter.
     
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    you´re probably referring to things we don´t want to talk about here.

    I never had any problems with filtering.