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I don't want to go to jail.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by small_town_boy, May 20, 2009.

  1. small_town_boy

    small_town_boy Power Member

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    Ok, now I'm scared.

    I was letting someone use my CPA account for promotion, promised to pay him a part of what he makes.

    I didn't know what he does, but now I get information from this CPA company that the leads were made with stolen cc's. I'm scared shitless!

    They haven't made any payments to me, and I'm not sure it's true that the person is using stolen cc's, but still it makes me worried.

    Since I haven't ever dealt with any cc's or anything illegal of that sort, what do you think is the best course of action for me to take now?

    I could use some good recommendations.
     
  2. betster77

    betster77 Regular Member

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    best advice is to shut up. zip, nada.. it's not what they know but what they can prove. "someone might be out to get me, I don't know... wasn't me" and don't deviate
     
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  3. affigold

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    where did u find this scammer ?? was he/she a member of BHW !?!? please, let us know so we won't deal with this scammer. any info so we can blacklist his ass!
     
  4. small_town_boy

    small_town_boy Power Member

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    I didn't say he was a scammer. I know people who have worked with him and they say it's all good and that he doesn't use stolen cc's. They say the CPA company is just making shit up to scare me or something.

    He might just do some regular promotions with a bit of bh, I dunno lol, but he never told me he would do any fraud like that, just told will do some bh.

    I already told them I outsourced. That's it. I wasn't lying, too, because that's what i did.
     
  5. madinaz

    madinaz BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Well here are some rules you should follow if you outsource accounts:

    1) NEVER use your real info on your Account.
    2) Alway's get paid via paypal and be sure to use an account you bought. So it will not be traced back to you.
    3) Use a different Ip than your home (cafe, library, proxy that can't be traced to you) when you create account.
    4) Never ask how they promote
    5) Keep a log of ALL your conversations with the person who is working your account.

    And the most important rule of all is Never let someone else work your account unless you know them.

    Hope this helps and by the way don't use stolen CC's there is a difference between blackhat and illegal. So stick to blackhat and you can stay out of jail
     
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  6. small_town_boy

    small_town_boy Power Member

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    Phew, what a relief. Of course there is no evidence. I didn't even he could be doing such a thing. I got logs and everything to back it up.
     
  7. madinaz

    madinaz BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Now that's not totally accurate. Let's say he was doing 300-500 offers with 100% stolen credit cards and got paid by the network. Or you trying to say the network won't go after you for fraud? I would bet anything they would
     
  8. small_town_boy

    small_town_boy Power Member

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    Well, the thing is - they didn't pay me.
     
  9. noob411

    noob411 Junior Member

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    and also not that some cpa companies don't pay and make up lame excuses not pay like all your leads were from stolen cc's..sounds fishy on their part not yours I would have put up a fight.
     
  10. madinaz

    madinaz BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Just be careful and if he is using stolen credit cards if I was you I would stop letting him use my accounts. Even if it's Blackhat and not cc fraud be sure to mix in whitehat traffic as well so you don't get banned.
     
  11. sam12six

    sam12six Newbie

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    I'm sure he would have fought if he had a clue what the other guy was doing with his account, but he didn't. For all he knows, the guy was using 100% stolen CC numbers.

    I personally wouldn't have entered into the original agreement. If someone is knowledgeable enough to make money in a non-criminal way, what on earth would he need to use your account and split the money for?

    Sure, if it was a friend, he might coach you and take a cut as his coaching fee, but "I'll do all the work and we'll split the money"? That doesn't make any sense at all, and should have had you running. The only reason to use a front-man is so when the shooting starts, no bullets hit you.
     
  12. sddk

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    sacrifice, let your company know that, and tell him that your intent was helping a poor friend to make some money (to buy an expensive medicament), if they accept that, change your info to avoid troubles and continue, if not request from them deleting your account, and don't repeat this mistake.

    If you want to play this game and work with others (friends or trusted guys you know, not scammers), use CPA networks with Paypal payout option and don't provide them with your real info.
    Be smart in every step, avoid serieus problems with affiliate companies,
    or you'll visit a bitter jail :)
     
  13. Claudiu

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    I recommend talking with the man you shared your account with to see if he has been doing illegal stuff.

    after talking to this guy, play low with the cpa company and tell them you are not aware of any illegal stuff going with your account and ask them to assist you on what to do next.

    There is a posibility that the man whom you shared your account with has also shareed this account with someone else and that someone else has been doing illegal stuff.

    So by asking help from the cpa company you show them you are a white hat user and are open to understand what's really going on
     
  14. detox1978

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    I'd deny any knowledge, act concerned and and ask for more info....

    People using stolen CC on your CPA doesn't prove you did it.
     
  15. seikooc

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    1. Did you ask them how many people claimed to have their CC stolen?
    2. Did you ask them to provide evidence of stolen CC's??

    The burden of proof is on them.... And if they do have proof then they can prove IP's used. And if so then it would point to him...

    However, if you are to face litigation then you will need an attorney because this stuff is not taken lightly..

    My advise is to communicate with the CPA site and get as much info as u can without telling them anything. Then shut it down and never do business with that guy again.

    PS: even if you have a paypal account, that does NOT stop them from finding out who you are. Paypal has to be tied to a real account and in the case of a lawsuit they would have to divulge that information upon the courts request.

    Right now just chill out and get info... Shut down the account and tell them it's BS..

    Good luck
     
  16. magcshroom

    magcshroom Regular Member

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    Don't worry about it. CC companies are a multi billion dollar industry. As long as the advertisers never payed you, don't worry about it.

    You'll be fine but you may lose your cpa account. Just be straight up with them and say you rented it out.
     
  17. Alex Brooks

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    It helps a lot if you have a good relationship with your AM, you may not loose your account if you have a good relationship with your AM, if you promise you won't rent your account out again, it was a mistake and you are sorry for causing them problems.