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I correctly 301 redirected my site to new domain. Ranks dropped 4 days after...

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by myk33, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. myk33

    myk33 Junior Member

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    Hi All,

    I have 301 redirected my company website from domain-a.co.uk to domain-b.net. I also checked to ensure that all /page1.html would divert like for like. In addition i ensured that without www. 301 redirects to the www.

    Please note that domain-a is a .co.uk and ALL of our KW are geo-based (Blue widgets london, london blue widgets etc). The new domain is a .net.

    I added domain-b.net to Google web master tools and set the targeted audience to UK. I set domain-a.co.uk as a name change to domain-b.net in google webmaster tools. Google WMT shows the following:

    www.domain-a.co.uk has been moved to www.domain-b.net
    (domain-a.co.uk has also been moved to www.domain-b.net)

    We submitted this on Friday 13th (typical date) and by Wednesday 18th all of our ranks dropped and domain-a.co.uk root home page was de-indexed and replaced with domain-b.net as per what should happen. However ranks have not stayed as they were before google updated its index and all ranks have disappeared of the face of the earth.

    doing a search on google for site:domain-a.co.uk still shows around 70% of the sub pages that have not yet been updated and site:domain-b.net show the other 30% that have been changed.

    I know its only around 10 days since we did the 301 redirect and it may take many weeks until ranks recover somewhat like for like (or at least back to the top 20!) but it would be good to also get some feed back from others who have done this before and how long it took if at all to recover ranks.

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
  2. Endire

    Endire Elite Member Premium Member

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    Myk33,

    Interesting situation you have here. Did all traffic stop to your site or did you just see a dip? Did you do anything else at all to the pages besides redirect them? Do you have any analytics installed on the site and if so, what do referrals say? Are you still getting the same level of referrals from other sources besides search? If not, this could be another issue besides visibility in search.

    Best,

    Shawn
     
  3. myk33

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    Hi there, nothing on the site was changed at all. We still get the usual direct and referral traffic but all google organic traffic is non existant
     
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    Thats why one shouldn't touch anything on Friday 13th!

    Just kiddin.. I think it is a normal dance when dealing with 301 redirects.. It takes time G to pass over the ranks and rerank you site
     
  5. myk33

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    yea kinda wish we never did it but really we have to do it as the domain-a was way to long (18 characters) and didnt look as professional as our 7 letter.net domain.

    I hope like you say in a few weeks or so we should see ranks start to recover but i have spoke to a few people who in their case it updated in a week and kept ranks and other who say that it took many weeks to re-calculate.

    i guess it would be good to have feedback from people who have done 301 redirect recently and lost ranking in the same situation as i am.

    cheers,

    mike
     
  6. Laubster

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    From what I've heard 301s can take a while to carry over, and there's no "guarantee" that you'll get the same rankings on the new pages that you had on the old ones.
     
  7. sn0rt

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    I don't want to speculate too much.

    Nobody really knows what's going on with google right now. Maybe something went haywire and they don't know what's going on or maybe they're trying to strategize. Who knows?

    They've dropped the rankings of a lot of people. Some legit, some who aren't. A lot of people are running to the disavow tool in hopes of recovery. Guess who are the ones running to it? Those who don't have legit links. If that doesn't work, they run to the 301.

    If this is the theory that google believes in, it'll be very easy to puppeteer internet marketers.

    All they have to do is wait for everyone to finish removing their links, 301ing, and then just reset the refresh/algo to where it was before everyone went buckwild.

    I'm one that's going with my own little strategy, we'll see how it goes.

    I'd personally wait to do anything that looks like a recovery attempt right now and work on something else, but that's just me.

    We all have to remember that google, although a computer system, it's still operated by humans. That being the case, it can always be outsmarted.

    Wish you, your business, and everyone else the best of luck.
     
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  8. Corydoras007

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    This is a tough one but I would say like others here to wait a little more. Could be a dance.
     
  9. Laubster

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    Blackhat SEOs are using 301s more and more right now (cause they work so well for massive link juice transfer). Because of this there's speculation that will be the next thing Google targets (if they're not already). Speculation of course, as always.
     
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    Man, the number one rule in SEO is NEVER move a ranking page.

    In fact never move a page at all unless it s absolutely necessary.
     
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    Techxan, thats a great point! +1
     
  12. luisczul

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    my original site was ranked 1st on every keyword.


    i did a exact copy paste

    put it in other url and did 301.

    I am not ranking on my second site very low ( only 1 keywod out of 9 ) in like page 5. 2 weeks after redirect applied. Original site has gone from 1 st to page 5 now on almost all keywords.

    I'll let you guys how it does, but I guess dont' check it every day as you might go crazy.
     
  13. luke6966

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    yup, seems like it takes longer now for redirects to actually work.

    I hope that do actually end up working in the end... still waitng
     
  14. kellyman

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    Sound familiar,

    I had this issue last year, I resolved buy switching the internal link structure back to the old site for a few days, my 301 was perfect went seamlessly without any problems, the new site was in the index within 48 hours 13k pages but rankings never went over

    I read a thread on seomoz when rankings go too well and followed the advice, then bam rankings came within 3/4 days

    So to recap on your site if you have navigation links point them to the old site, which will tell the search engines your site has moved.

    Type into google when 301's go wrong

    and its the first artcle on Moz

    It works
     
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    nanavlad Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Not much you can do at this stage
    except keep building a few quality links each day
    starting with the unindexed pages
     
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    i was waiting about 1 month after 301 redirect to get my rank back.anyway this will not happen on all cases .one redirect worked and the other one i made same time didnt worked and never got rank back
     
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    You may want to set a rel canonical tag along with your 301 redirect to avoid duplicate contents if you don't add then google treats that as separate url's.From now start building links to your new preferred domain traffic from your old domain should reach new domain via redirect.On the other note PR of old domain if any will get passed to the new domain.Your search positions may be altered due to 301 wait for some more days to see after google bot crawls your new website again so that i hope you will be ranking higher again.