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I CHALLENGE you to turn me into a believer that making MONEY ONLINE is possible.

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by matias1021, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. matias1021

    matias1021 Newbie

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    I just dont believe it anymore, i cant beleive how many scammers and dishonest people are out there. And how i keep falling for it.:(

    I got so hooked into the idea of making money online for the past 3 months. I was picturing myself making residual income, they really sold me well. Ive gone throught everything, from buyin shiity ebooks, to shiity membership sites. shitty methods, shitty coaching.Ive lost so much money trying to make everything work, buying software. I cant beleive how much money i spent, in my head i was already thinking i would make it back by the time the residual income comes in.:(

    I even followed a CPA coach for a month. Everything looked great, but just another well thought out scam. It sucks, i sacrificed hours of my day, spent hours on the internet for nothing. Im back at the same stage when i first thought of the idea of making money online, with a lot less money in my pocket. I am a little bit depressed cause of the let down and high expectations i had.

    And then trying to convince the people around me that making money online IS POSSIBLE, only to be scammed and look like an idiot, even worst. :(

    Im commited to make money online, not just for the money. But to prove to the people around me that it is possible. I feel like i cant back out. But at this point im not sure if i even believe it myself.

    What are PROVEN methods? PROVEN coaches? I would someone that can go straight to the point, just be real with me.
     
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  2. sf6689

    sf6689 Registered Member

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    No one is going to hand everything to you on a silver platter. This business is just trial and error, you'll fail quite a lot, but then you'll hit a few jackpots along the way.

    Also, some people just aren't cut out for certain jobs... (You wouldn't expect a fry cook to try to go to work as a doctor).
     
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  3. amdoch

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    Read,Read,Read..

    That's the only way to success =) I was starting to give up too but now i actually have one of my projects going making me about $60+ per autopilot every day.

    Just keep on trying and find your own way of doing it
     
  4. ken3401

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    You couldn't have offered a better answer.

    You are telling me that you here at the Blackhat forum and don't know how to make money online with so much information here at your disposal?

    You really need to settle for a 9-5 and get off the internet!
     
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  5. matias1021

    matias1021 Newbie

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    I think, logically it makes sense to follow somebody that IS making money..no?


    Not an old ebook, not a membership site that may or may not have constant updates or details. A "coach", someone that can answer your questions instantly and take you step by step. But then again, why would someone that makes $100 + a day or whatever waste his time coaching people? Thats my problem, i dont know what to believe.

    My familys opinion is that theres no such thing as someone coaching you to make money, if they make good figures daily, then it doesnt make sense to coach..it is most likely a scam.

    My question is, do you agree with that?
     
  6. mattjay

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    There are many helpful free training methods here at bhw. Take a good look around the entire site. There are also downloads available for free. I agree; stop spending money on every good sales page you see and instead find out what you can learn from here. I have been in IM a while, and in cpa marketing a short time and have found good stuff on here. Remain patient and stop wasting your cash on garbage. Good luck to you.
     
  7. hotwicked

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    I didn't have anyone "coach" me or buy an ebook. I read up over the years in many forums, and online sites. I tested, applied it, tested more, and rinsed and repeated until I got it right.

    Just because you can't seem to figure it out doesn't mean nobody is making money. There are lots of us doing quite nicely. Perhaps this line of work is not for you?
     
  8. callmelucid

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    making money isnt because of "methods" or coaching or whatever. its about YOU and how creative and smart you are.

    think about it. if people give stuff away, its probably not going to make you a millionaire in a week. at the same time, people are selling crap to hundreds of people... tell me that isnt profitable!

    think outside the box. think why things happen and where the money is. dont just follow methods word for word. USE YOUR BRAIN and you will make money. how much money is another story
     
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  9. therat

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    ecommerce is a trillion dollar industry so yeah there's money to be made

    it comes down to offering value or taking advantage of "loopholes" and this is what this forum is about.

    IMO it takes a good amount of Time and/or Effort before you see any results (unless you do CS). You should have or teach yourself a "knowledge base" of website creation and basic code.

    Unfortunately you wasted money on BS before you found this site or decided to take what's on this site seriously enough.

    Personally I have learned to make $$ through CS, craigslist, facebook, ppi, cpa, email marketing, adsense arbitrage - all from this forum.
     
  10. bigspade

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    I been there pal, wasted literally thousands of dollars on internet marketing products, courses and membership. I began my internet marketing career 1 year ago, guess what? I never made a single dime within this year - my bad. Ended up, I got depress and desperate to make money online. Remember when I said this phrase.

    It's not how many people you can kill in a war, endurance is what wins the war.

    Time for some motivation juice to you, just last month....I made my first thousand dollar in internet marketing :)

    Keep going pal!
     
  11. farfetchedmoney

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    The truth is there is alot of ways to make money online and offline. The reason why alot of people dont make money is 1. they follow systems that arent for them. 2. They haven't hit their stride.
    BHW has alot of infomation to sift through and that can be a parodox. 1. You could get information overload, but, on the other hand you could have an empihany and hit your personal stride. Finding your niche is the key, but, it aint always easy. All that you went through so far is part of your journey, and, someday with persistance, you will peak. You will awake oneday and say, "damn I wish I did such and such earlier". However, you wouldn't have found such and such if you hadn't made all the mistakes.

    See my point?
     
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  12. matias1021

    matias1021 Newbie

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    Those who have mentioned they are making money, what are u doing and how did u get to that point? (in general no need for specifics)
    Dont get me wrong, i appreciate the advice of reading and having effort or whatever..but i was hoping for more direct non cliche advice, not so broad.
     
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    post repeat sorry
     
  14. popcrdom29

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    I only have a few things to tell you. You said that you bought a lot of ebooks online. I'm willing to bet that you might have bought some affiliate stuff from me. Thanks for giving me of your money.

    Do you get where I'm coming from? Now you turn around and do the same thing. Sell affiliate products to others. If you bought something, then so will someone else.
     
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    I would just say one thing. Just don't follow system step by step. add you twist and your imagination and eventually you will succeed.
    Also don't treat your failure as your loss, you must have actually learned by now what not to do at least.
    Remember, even if you do not know what to do exactly, it is more important to know what not to do. So treat your failure as a learning curve and you are fine..

    Don't spend any amount of money now. Just make a promise to yourself that you will earn online to spend online. NOthing will go out from your pocket.

    There are lots of ways to earn without investment or with negligible investment. This is the beauty of online business.
     
  16. mentalist

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    I have never had any "major" success at IM. Hell, it took me 6 months to even make my first dollar online.

    I spent that time reading this forum (back when I joined) front to back and then back to front again. I fell in to the newbie trap of downloading a billion E-Books and reading them all and getting entirely overwhelmed by the sheer information overload.

    When I felt that I had a good foundation of knowledge though I went at it and started thinking and applying methods and twisting them in my own ways.


    I still don't make that much money from this gig but I've had a few good runs and had a few months when I've made over a thousand.

    Guess what?

    I'm still here. I'm still learning. I'm still applying new methods and I'm thinking up my own as well.

    This business is all about perseverance. IM is ultimately a very difficult and technical avenue to get involved in. It's not for the feint of heart.

    I've had bad days at this crazy world of IM. I've felt like giving up. I've cursed how difficult it can be. I've felt sorry for myself when I haven't been able to make anything work right. I've felt like it's all a waste of time.

    The difference is this: I kept all those negative setbacks to myself and put them in their place. And after cooling off for a few days I dived right back in and redoubled my efforts. I refused to give up.

    Success in Internet Marketing is the ultimate glass ceiling. You need to get up there first and then you need to put enough cracks in it until you finally breakthrough. If you put in the effort and time you will breakthrough. It's inevitable.

    Does that mean you will be rolling in cash and be one of the big boys? No it doesn't. What it means is that a respectable income is highly achievable from nothing more than hard work and focus on the task at hand.

    The dropout rate for this biz is probably around 95% I would wager. Because the promises of easy money are soon tempered with the fact that there is NO SUCH THING. Sure, you can make some damn easy money at this. But to have it be sustainable you have to do the grunt work and put yourself through a certain amount of hell to get there.


    3 months?

    Come back in a year.
     
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  17. Randy569

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    No one is going to tell you EXACTLY how to make money, because I don't think anyone can tell you.

    There are so many variables to the game that, what might work for one person, will never work for another. Nothing in this business is really "cut-and-dried", so to speak. It requires a large degree of creativity, a lot of research, a little finesse, and occasionally, some sheer dumb luck. You just have to be persistent, and find the right combination of A: what you feel comfortable with, B: make sure it is compatible with your skill level, (and if it isn't, either learn the skill or move on to something else) and C: try, try, try.

    There is no magic tool or program. It is just your guts, your brain, and your nerve.
     
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  18. ovi1001

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    I recently sold my website " steroids.ro " for $ 25k and I`ve built it in just one year. This is a proof that anyone can make money on internet very easy. I`m building another website right now " anabolicsteroids.ro " and I want to make it bigger than the first one
    Here is the proof :
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  19. matias1021

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    thank for your response. I will keep going at it.

    I know i keep bringing up coaching....But you have to admit, if someone is selling you the idea of making 300+ a week from their coaching...where u implement the methods follow advice, have a mentor to help u if youre stuck ....its hard to pass up, no?.

    People online ive been talking to say the best way to make money online is get a mentor, someone that has been there before. Would you agree with that?

    Hypothetically, If a well respected BlackHatMember was offering such coaching, would you take it? Or is better to just stay away.
     
  20. amdoch

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    lol you can pay me some cash and i share one of my methods :p i even coach you!