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I cant understand this pagerank system

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by virtualcredit, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. virtualcredit

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    How many inbound urls should i need to get into my site atleast to get at PR 1
     
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  2. masteraffmarket

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    There is no one set number it depends on the quality of each link and some other factors.
    But dont sweat page rank as it makes you no money only unless you need to sell a site

    //MAF
     
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    Depends on the size of the Internet. The larger it becomes the more you need.
     
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    ya guys i have so far made like 1000 backlinks and 150 social bookmarkings but still it is N/L
     
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    On the PR of the backlinks

    And you should wait for a PR update, it doesnt happen overnight..
     
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    Tips how to increase Pagerank:

    1) Get Do-follow backlinks from High PageRank Pages, best works contextual links
    2) Get links on high authority sites, like youtube and other, but your links must have lot clicks - bringing traffic to your site.
     
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    First, page rank isn't really that important for you're own pages. It's an indication of all backlinks to your page, but those backlinks can be targeted for any keywords or even none at all. A high PR on you're page doesn't mean it's going to do well in the serps for any particular keywords. Where PR is important is for what pages you're getting backlinks from. A backlink on a single higher PR page counts the same as having backlinks on many lower PR pages.

    I posted a thread recently giving a more detailed explanation if you want to search for it. "Clearing up some things about PR and SERP ranking"

    Second, PR factors are calculated and used in realtime by the search engine algorithms, but the PR indicator is only updated every few months. So the site you mention that has thousands of backlinks may be getting the same results as a PR1, PR2, or PR3 page even if it's PR indicator says it's a N/A, PR0, or PR1.

    So... Don't get all wrapped up in worrying about the PR of your site. Instead just focus your efforts on targeting your page to get indexed for keywords in the SERPs. If you concentrate on PR you might do a lot of work and not get much benefit in the SERPs, but if you focus instead on backlinks to help your site rise in the SERPS, then the same efforts will count toward you're PR as well.
     
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  8. virtualcredit

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    Hey guys in this forum where should i post about a new launch CB product details. But not a paying something cuz i am lost. Is there a free way.
     
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    I think ,no :)
     
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    update your Site every Day, min. once a day, if you can do twice - its Better... Forget about Tons of Backlinks...
    If you'll do it like this, next Google Update will be a Surprise For You , You can Get PR 2-3 EVEN 4 !!!
    (Thats how im starting every new site.)
    If you update your Site once-twice a day, its enough 1 month of work, after you can update it once a week...
     
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    How is PageRank calculated?
    
    To calculate the PageRank for a page, all of its inbound links are taken into account. These are links from within the site and links from outside the site.
    
    PR(A) = (1-d) + d(PR(t1)/C(t1) + ... + PR(tn)/C(tn))
    
    That's the equation that calculates a page's PageRank. It's the original one that was published when PageRank was being developed, and it is probable that Google uses a variation of it but they aren't telling us what it is. It doesn't matter though, as this equation is good enough.
    
    In the equation 't1 - tn' are pages linking to page A, 'C' is the number of outbound links that a page has and 'd' is a damping factor, usually set to 0.85.
    
    We can think of it in a simpler way:-
    
    a page's PageRank = 0.15 + 0.85 * (a "share" of the PageRank of every page that links to it)
    
    "share" = the linking page's PageRank divided by the number of outbound links on the page.
    
    A page "votes" an amount of PageRank onto each page that it links to. The amount of PageRank that it has to vote with is a little less than its own PageRank value (its own value * 0.85). This value is shared equally between all the pages that it links to.
    
    From this, we could conclude that a link from a page with PR4 and 5 outbound links is worth more than a link from a page with PR8 and 100 outbound links. The PageRank of a page that links to yours is important but the number of links on that page is also important. The more links there are on a page, the less PageRank value your page will receive from it.
    
    If the PageRank value differences between PR1, PR2,.....PR10 were equal then that conclusion would hold up, but many people believe that the values between PR1 and PR10 (the maximum) are set on a logarithmic scale, and there is very good reason for believing it. Nobody outside Google knows for sure one way or the other, but the chances are high that the scale is logarithmic, or similar. If so, it means that it takes a lot more additional PageRank for a page to move up to the next PageRank level that it did to move up from the previous PageRank level. The result is that it reverses the previous conclusion, so that a link from a PR8 page that has lots of outbound links is worth more than a link from a PR4 page that has only a few outbound links.
    
    Whichever scale Google uses, we can be sure of one thing. A link from another site increases our site's PageRank. Just remember to avoid links from link farms.
    
    Note that when a page votes its PageRank value to other pages, its own PageRank is not reduced by the value that it is voting. The page doing the voting doesn't give away its PageRank and end up with nothing. It isn't a transfer of PageRank. It is simply a vote according to the page's PageRank value. It's like a shareholders meeting where each shareholder votes according to the number of shares held, but the shares themselves aren't given away. Even so, pages do lose some PageRank indirectly, as we'll see later.
    
    Ok so far? Good. Now we'll look at how the calculations are actually done.
    
    For a page's calculation, its existing PageRank (if it has any) is abandoned completely and a fresh calculation is done where the page relies solely on the PageRank "voted" for it by its current inbound links, which may have changed since the last time the page's PageRank was calculated.
    
    The equation shows clearly how a page's PageRank is arrived at. But what isn't immediately obvious is that it can't work if the calculation is done just once. Suppose we have 2 pages, A and B, which link to each other, and neither have any other links of any kind. This is what happens:-
    
    Step 1: Calculate page A's PageRank from the value of its inbound links
    
    Page A now has a new PageRank value. The calculation used the value of the inbound link from page B. But page B has an inbound link (from page A) and its new PageRank value hasn't been worked out yet, so page A's new PageRank value is based on inaccurate data and can't be accurate.
    
    Step 2: Calculate page B's PageRank from the value of its inbound links
    
    Page B now has a new PageRank value, but it can't be accurate because the calculation used the new PageRank value of the inbound link from page A, which is inaccurate.
    
    It's a Catch 22 situation. We can't work out A's PageRank until we know B's PageRank, and we can't work out B's PageRank until we know A's PageRank.
    
    Now that both pages have newly calculated PageRank values, can't we just run the calculations again to arrive at accurate values? No. We can run the calculations again using the new values and the results will be more accurate, but we will always be using inaccurate values for the calculations, so the results will always be inaccurate.
    
    The problem is overcome by repeating the calculations many times. Each time produces slightly more accurate values. In fact, total accuracy can never be achieved because the calculations are always based on inaccurate values. 40 to 50 iterations are sufficient to reach a point where any further iterations wouldn't produce enough of a change to the values to matter. This is precisiely what Google does at each update, and it's the reason why the updates take so long.
    
    One thing to bear in mind is that the results we get from the calculations are proportions. The figures must then be set against a scale (known only to Google) to arrive at each page's actual PageRank. Even so, we can use the calculations to channel the PageRank within a site around its pages so that certain pages receive a higher proportion of it than others. 
     
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