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I ask my fellow blackhatters: How does this site rank #1?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Adam718, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. Adam718

    Adam718 Senior Member

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    Alright, so I'm in my new office (to do SEO for a customer in-house) and I start checking out the competition, and stumbled upon something interesting. The #1 stop on a pretty good keyword (sell gold nyc) is occupied by a page with 0 backlinks. I've heard of people ranking with little backlinks, but never saw a site hit #1 without a single one. I'd like to know your own opinions on how this is possible. The page is http://www.selldiamondsnyc.com/the-fastest-way-to-sell-gold-in-new-york/
     
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    Excuse me if I missed something in your post, but what is the keyword they are ranking for?
     
  3. raghav

    raghav Power Member

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    Yes, what is the keyword?
     
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    Maybe on-page SEO?
     
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  5. Adam718

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    The keyword is sell gold nyc.
     
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    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    Just because they are blocking index sites like ahrefs or majestic from seeing those links doesn't mean they don't have them.

    They are not ranking for gold or diamonds in NYC without some serious links.
     
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    The root domain had 8.7K links and a ahrefs domain rank of 98, plus 3 redirects which seem quite powerful at the moment so that'd be why
     
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    301 redirects, they do not always show up.
     
  9. Adam718

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    In that case, shouldnt the root domain be ranking and not the inner page? Or can it be because the inner page is more optimized for that keyword :\
     
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    If the site truly has 0 backlinks, then the ranking was achieved by using 301 redirects. Check it out here: http://www.seroundtable.com/redirects-links-pagerank-16419.html or just search this forum for 301s

    SEOs will use 301s to hide their backlink profile from the competition. This way you cannot see what your up against, and cannot replicate his backlink profile.

    301's pass equal link juice to a backlink.

    Likely setup of your competitor:

    Backlinks > Website > 301 > Money Site

    Repeated many times over
     
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    301 redirects. Powerful method.
     
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  12. BHPlatinum

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    What do you mean by backlink>website>301

    Most just backlink to the 301
     
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    You could also be seeing personalized search depending on previous search queries or location from where you are doing your search queries from. I just checked for that term from somewhere other than the east coast and it comes up at position #30 (bottom of page 3) on Google.
     
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    Trying to spell it out to someone who isn't familiar with the process.

    Backlinking to a website, that is 301 redirected to the money site.
     
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    Ah sorry, so you meant the website is the 301. OP you can also just 301 domains, although should be aged
     
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    they probably have some strong (hidden) links you are not picking up with your seo site explorer. Idk about 301 redirects
     
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    Well first off.. that website isnt #1 for "sell gold nyc" its actually at the top of page 4 for the keyword...

    Incase you want to evaluate that keyword further.. Here is market samurai's analysis of the top 8 websites for "sell gold nyc"

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    Yeap, even from my part is not ranked #1, In fact I can't even see it on the first page at all, didn't check other pages, but definitely on my first page of Google is not first.
    I am using Google.Com by the way, not local google.
     
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    He might have been on page 4 of google.. Cuz its definitely #1 (on page 4)
     
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    The best and true answer is Google Adword PPC.