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I am Out from my niche bcoz of 1 BH Service Seller

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by intvijay, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. intvijay

    intvijay Registered Member

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    Hi all,

    I already lost many of my domains recently in G last update. One member from BHW - a service seller has been helping me for past 1 year to maintain strong rank in my niche. My method gets me to top 5 and his service gives me more power to rank well. I paid him whatever he demands. Recently he rejected my work. later after a week, I came to know he is working on my niche. I again contacted him to give 50/50. He asked me 75%. I rejected the deal. And he started more n more and working die hard and ranking quite good. He knows my secret sauce and doing well.

    Lesson Learnt - I can even trust Google Panda/Penguin but not few BHW Service Sellers. Its hard to identity those few. Just staying away from service these days. :(

    He is working die hard like washing out me completely. I even have confident in Google updates. But this guy gave me fear and I lost my confident completely.

    Sorry for my English Style. Totally mood out. :(
     
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  2. TeamUnique

    TeamUnique Regular Member

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    Man, that really sucks to hear! I would have thought him supplying a service like that to people that there would be some sort of ground where the deal is made that he could not ''steal'' an idea for himself.

    I guess lesson learnt! A hard lesson at that!
     
  3. howard_hughes

    howard_hughes Elite Member

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    Its never a good idea to reveal your secrets like that :(
     
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  4. tashrif

    tashrif BANNED BANNED

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    Don't give up man. If he can work hard, why cant you. Remember, you can gain nothing in life if you have this attitude.
     
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  5. toptoptop

    toptoptop BANNED BANNED

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    That's just business.
     
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  6. rugbyjack2005

    rugbyjack2005 Power Member

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    There's not much you can do to protect against this. NDA's wouldn't really work in this situation. The only thing you can do is to make sure that you do not have all of your eggs in 1 basket - e.g. hire an SEO but don't tell them your business model etc.

    There are lots of SEOs out there though so i don't see why you are dead in the water, you just need to regroup and carry on. Either learn how to do it yourself (go through the SEO reports that you have) or find someone else to do the work. Most good SEO people will be able to reverse engineer what has done fairly easily away.
     
  7. bashx

    bashx Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Cool that seem's like a good business plan.

    1. Get approved for Seo Services
    2. Keep all data on customers
    3. Use the keywords and data from customers to compete with customers
    4. Profit!

    Who need's keyword research when you can just setup as a vendor and acquire everyone else's research.

    The OP does not have a strong command of the English language so maybe this thread wont get traction but if what he is saying is true you would have to be stupid to use any ranking service on this forum.
     
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  8. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    I've read several threads like this over the years.
    It's why I do 90% of my own SEO.
    Giving all your details to a service seller is like giving them the number to your bank account and hoping they don't take all your cash.

    This must be the 20th thread over the years I've read with exactly this issue.
    I know most service sellars are great - but it only takes one or two to mess the whole thing up and for people to lose confidence in the system.

    Scritty
     
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  9. Knoxgates

    Knoxgates Supreme Member

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    Who is the seller. The services seller is going to the wrong route, needs to be booted out. Shitlist him
     
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  10. BigBuddy

    BigBuddy Account Under Review

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    Are you sure, he stolen your niche? Do you have any valid proof?

    If yes, post his name in shitlist section and it will be dealt accordingly.

    We don't want people stealing fellow members hard work in the name of seo service providers.
     
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  11. BLIXX

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    I have actually had more than one BST service provider attempt negative SEO attacks on domains submitted to them to work on after telling them exactly what I thought of their shite service upon campaign completion:D. Of course, I cannot 'prove' it so I've never bothered making a stink. Probably because I wouldn't dream of outsourcing work for important sites, though.

    I don't know what flavour retard one has to be to submit work to, or share proprietary information with, perfect strangers on the Internet, but the idea of providing Tier 1 clientele domains, trade strategies, niche analysis and plan-of-attack or money sites with anyone with whom one cannot look in the eye is so ridiculously dumb and intellectually infantile to me that I have a hard time feeling sorry for OP. I fully admit that I've been made a jaded, cynical asshole though; so, there's that.

    As TeamUnique stated, OP, lesson learned?
     
  12. Gorush

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    show us which bhw member did that ... without the name - nobody could help you and your post would made invain
     
  13. Duffers5000

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    Yes this is absolutely not a case of " tough pal , lesson learned". If you have been buying services from a supplier and you have proof that they have decided to help themselves to your niche then its name and shame time. A respected SEO should respect client confidentiality regardless of the business.
     
  14. intvijay

    intvijay Registered Member

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    If I reveal his name, I am sure he will double his work against me. Just planning to competitive with him. He can come again using another name.

    I am not stepping backward. Thinking about my next move.
     
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  15. mudbutt

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    Sure does give a black eye to the legit service sellers. Do they sell on BHW?
     
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    Tell his name so that other clients can be safe and stay away from him
     
  17. Th3T3chGuy

    Th3T3chGuy Senior Member

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    Even though this might be true, you would be helping a lot of people that may want to invest in that service.
     
  18. BLIXX

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    Big balls. Glad to hear: realistic, mature and thought-out (IMO).

    It is all-too-easy at times to allow moral and ethical idealism to get in the way of practicality.

    Unfortunately, you've now put yourself in the pickle of essentially having to reveal who did this, lest you face the moral hoard about to descend upon you demanding a name, address and blood.

    Do it, and you satiate them; do it not, and you become the asshole.

    Strange world, yeah?
     
  19. Blue Demon

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    If you don't want to say who it is, can you pm it to me? thanks!
     
  20. intvijay

    intvijay Registered Member

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    k. I will discuss about this in private with moderator.
     
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