1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

I am not sure whether to get back on the Ebay gig again

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by stressfree, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. stressfree

    stressfree Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2007
    Messages:
    1,116
    Likes Received:
    233
    I know Ebay is an enormous trafficked site but the hoops you have to jump through for customers and the B*S* feedback system has put me off using them again. Am i biting my nose to spite my face?

    You think there is any chance that feedback system might be re-done one day soon? So we sellers have an opportunity to delete frivoulous remarks? I got tired of gettign crazy comments like "didn't answer email" (on a Sunday) so - feedback.

    And is it possible to bypass Gaypal using Ebay? Or do oyu have yo use them?
     
  2. rahmaster

    rahmaster Newbie

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2011
    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    6
    Occupation:
    Freelance Web Designer
    Location:
    Georgia, the country and state
    nowadays ebay and pp almost go hand in hand. If your asking if you can use ebay without pp, yes. But you will not be considered a "trusted" seller. You still may see sells but not as much as a verified pp user.
     
  3. joxnard562

    joxnard562 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2010
    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    26
    Occupation:
    Sales
    Location:
    CA
    ebay might be a nightmare but it does provide income quickly. with the new update coming in ebay wont allow any 3rd party checkout, so only paypal. what i did i just included my phone number and when some people call me, i give a discount and point them to google checkout.
     
  4. wholesalereplica

    wholesalereplica BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2010
    Messages:
    692
    Likes Received:
    247
    stressfree you need to empty your PM inbox as no one can contact you
     
  5. johnj2011

    johnj2011 Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    6
    i hate ebay, i use it but hate it, there feedback system doesnt work and they bully you into using paypal regardless of whether you want to or not. They have a complete monopoly on the payment methods you can use. And there is nothing really in place with regards to protecting seller, paypal and ebay itself is fundamentally floored and i would say that for every 10 completed auctions theres only a 5 in 10 chance that the transaction will complete.
    Anyone who understands what an auction actually is and who has been to a real auction house would realise that once you win an item, thats it, its yours, whether you still want it or not. You bid you buy, its legally binding and you can't just walk away from it.

    Ebay, a great idea badly implemented.
     
  6. AlexaR

    AlexaR Junior Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    166
    Likes Received:
    76
    Occupation:
    Ghostwriter
    Location:
    Mexico
    Home Page:
    I loved ebay for years until I got into the dropshipping business, stupid buyers not reading descriptions, demanding refunds and then my provider died (no, really, he didn't fake his death to avoid responsibility :S) and I was left without the ability to refund people and with massive losses... not going back there until I do the shipping myself, you have nothing to back you up as a seller.
     
  7. phluid

    phluid Power Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    748
    Likes Received:
    340
    Ebay sucks, I currently use it but am doing everything I can to move away from it. As long as they are still making tons of money they will never change the feedback system to be fair for sellers but they are still not as strict as Amazon.
     
  8. tygrus

    tygrus Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,237
    Likes Received:
    827
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Canada
    A whole industry has popped up on ebay where buyers claim they never receive the item when they do and then get a refund back from you and resell your item down at the local pawn shop, then slam your buyer rating with bogus feedback that makes your next sale even harder. I won't touch that place again.
     
  9. stressfree

    stressfree Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2007
    Messages:
    1,116
    Likes Received:
    233
    yeah i kind of think the same thing...
     
  10. Crazy

    Crazy Jr. Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    640
    Likes Received:
    319
    Occupation:
    VB, C#, XHTML, CSS, PHP, MySQL, JavaScript, jQuery
    Location:
    Everywhere
    Eek, this is making me reconsider purchasing an eBay business being offered to me. Is it really that bad? I understand customer service is the cornerstone of every good business, but I mean... do people really get away with the shit people are saying in this thread?

    There's no appeal process for negative feedback? There's no recourse for sellers who back out of the deal after winning the auction?
     
  11. eBayMafia

    eBayMafia BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    460
    Likes Received:
    284
    It is really really not good right now.

    There are people with several accounts and several addresses and what they do is buy a bunch of items, then they will claim either 2 things:

    1) They never got the item. PayPal refunds automatically for these claims. You can NEVER prove someone got the item. No matter if you print the shipping labels straight from PayPal or not.

    2) That it was damaged, or is broken, not what they wanted, or the packaging was really bad. They will say "Give me a refund because I deserve it or I will leave you negative feedback, and low DSR scores and you will be shut down" - most people selling $6000/mo in inventory wont be hassled.

    Then they collect the item and get their money back. Then they will sell the item on another eBay account. An eBay account can file claims like this for months and months before anything is done.

    There is a group called "Anti-Yellow" on eBay that does this with Chinese sellers. I know this because most of the people that do this are from Oskaloosa, Des Moines, and Riverside Iowa. They gloat about it and claim there is a bunch of people in the group all keeping tabs on each others scores and have contests and shit. I ran into them at an eBay class on Antiques. They buy tons of stuff from Chinese/Hong Kong sellers right on eBay, usually in bulk. Then they claim they never got the item(s), they get their money back, meanwhile they are selling all of them on eBay for a 300% to 400% mark up.
     
  12. Crazy

    Crazy Jr. Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    640
    Likes Received:
    319
    Occupation:
    VB, C#, XHTML, CSS, PHP, MySQL, JavaScript, jQuery
    Location:
    Everywhere
    That's sick. They boast about this openly? How are they not being prosecuted for fraud and theft? Seems weird to me.

    Why not pay some extra funds for delivery confirmation to avoid this?

    Edit: what is a DSR score?
     
  13. stressfree

    stressfree Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2007
    Messages:
    1,116
    Likes Received:
    233
    It's probably why you are being offered the bizz in the 1st palce...

     
  14. eBayMafia

    eBayMafia BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    460
    Likes Received:
    284
    Chinese don't to save money on shipping. Some of them only make a couple RMB per item they sell, so that $2 shipping fee is a day of meals. Plus, confirmation doesn't really work beyond your country, and really isn't enough proof to eBay.

    Yep, its pretty open. Comes up every once in a while on forums and discussion boards. You think someone in China is going to know how to even go about filing a claim of theft and fraud for another country? Try calling your local police department and telling them you were scammed on Craigslist and see what happens, lol.

    DSR = Detailed Seller Ratings. This is like the stars in a "5 star restaurant." Most buyers aren't fully away of the damages of only leaving 4 stars. Pretty messed up system.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2011