1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

I am buying leads..Anything wrong with this?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by mraxe, Oct 29, 2008.

  1. mraxe

    mraxe BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    16
    A few weeks ago, I started doing this method.

    I am actually buying leads who are interested in students loan etc.

    Now, one vendor is giving me 100 leads per day and all of
    their valid contact details like name, phone,zip and everything.

    Okay so these leads are genuinely interested in getting themselves
    a loan of some sort.

    My question is - If I put in the details of the leads in 1 CPA offer
    myself, by changing IPs etc. Would I get caught ? why will I ?
    these leads are real and going to convert for the advertiser.

    What do you think guys ?

    Shoot me your ideas.
     
  2. Pofecker

    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,137
    Likes Received:
    7,093
    Location:
    In your attic
    Buying leads = No problem

    Using the info to fill out the offers yourself = Blackhat

    This method has been used before with pretty good success, but if you get caught, your going to catch a ban. Be careful, don't be greedy and cover your tracks and you might make a bit of money. Using them across multiple networks might be a good idea too. :p

    The quality of the leads you bought are going to ultimately determine how long you can keep this up.
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2008
  3. gundamwing

    gundamwing Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    1,274
    Likes Received:
    913
    you wrong is all same

    fill out your self with vpn or socks secure
    remove cookie etc same like buying leads

    but more secure do it your self
    but the point is no game no pain .....:biggthump
     
  4. Pofecker

    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,137
    Likes Received:
    7,093
    Location:
    In your attic
    There no issue in buying leads and sending them out emails to your student load offers. With that being said, if his vendor is sending out actual leads to go fill out his offers to get paid, then that's different. From what I gather, his vendor is sending him all the lead information and this guy is turning around and filling out the offers with that info.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  5. mraxe

    mraxe BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    16
    Actually, the guy has been selling leads for quite sometime now.

    He is pretty popular in this industry.

    And his leads are real ones that convert.

    NO FAKE INFO. ALL REAL PEOPLE.

    And the proxy is highly anonymous, one time use etc.

    Am using double meta refresh etc.

    Now what are the chances?
     
  6. Pofecker

    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,137
    Likes Received:
    7,093
    Location:
    In your attic
    As long as the lead information is decent and they actually convert for the advertiser, I'd say the chance are pretty low in getting caught. If your not greedy and do it right, then you could make some decent money.
     
  7. Panique

    Panique Power Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    589
    Likes Received:
    412
    Location:
    Caribbean Islands
    Home Page:
    But do you have to change IP or something everytime you fill in your own leads
     
  8. jburrtucaz

    jburrtucaz Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    231
    Likes Received:
    83
    The problem that I see with this is even if you're changing IP addresses for each lead, are the IP addresses matching up with the location of each lead? For instance, if each of your lead's address is in California but your IP address is from New York, then at some point the CPA network will catch on and then you're toast.
     
  9. gundamwing

    gundamwing Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    1,274
    Likes Received:
    913

    if you buy socks secure like virtual*kaskus*in
    you will find and search every twon city socks proxy
    need people infos ?

    try people.yahoo.com

    greetz

    stay under radar for playing fake leads
    better create a couple account with small earn
     
  10. topam

    topam Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    22
    Well, even if you do succeed in staying undetectable from the affiliate network, Its most likely that the leads will not convert as they would be seen as spam to the actual people. There would also be a lot of complaints from the people to the advertiser which will just lead back to you. In addition to that, the affiliate network will notice that all the leads you're getting will be coming in bunches at the same time so they will notice some thing's up.
    There's no pint going down this path because ive been there and it aint worth it. Use your time doing something that is actual valuable.
     
  11. andre09

    andre09 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Messages:
    174
    Likes Received:
    257
    Heed this quote, it is too true.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  12. Pofecker

    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,137
    Likes Received:
    7,093
    Location:
    In your attic
    This really does have a lot to do with how many leads convert for the advertiser. Think of it this way. If the advertiser is getting the accepted amount of sales through your leads, then why would they complain? With that being said, if the leads don't convert / someone complains / you mess up and fill out the offers the wrong way and the network sees blatant fraud, then its game over.

    The long and the short of this is, yes it will work and yes it could get you banned. It's a very fine line between the two and the method is fraught with danger. I would personally steer people away from such a project since there is so many points of failure.
     
  13. mraxe

    mraxe BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    16
    I just tried using the IP finder( just googled the website).

    What it says about my IP :

    Country certainty - 100 %
    Region certainty - 42%

    And it showed me a state which is located at
    least 3000 kms from my residence.

    Now if the user is on a broadband (like I am) which
    has a dynamic IP, how will the networks
    track ?

    The IP will change every time they connect
    to the internet.

    Therefore, finding the state etc , will be
    absolutely baseless, because in reality
    technically, it makes no sense.

    But yes , its 100 percent US based, so
    as long as the offer is open countrywide,
    I am sure there wont be any issue.

    Isnt it ?
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  14. rising2

    rising2 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2007
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    1
    i also do this.till now i have never got caught.
     
  15. jlukaz

    jlukaz Newbie

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2010
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    13
    Occupation:
    Online Marketer
    Location:
    The Bay, CA
    great concept