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Hydraulic Fracturing [Fracking] - What's Your Say?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Sophie, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. Sophie

    Sophie Elite Member Premium Member

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  2. nesterdwarf

    nesterdwarf Regular Member

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    State of Misery...er, Missouri...
    This is going to quickly descend into forbidden territory (politics) but fracking is really a bad idea for several reasons. First, as you mention, it has been associated with an increase in earthquakes in areas that it is being utilized - there have been several in the last couple of years in my area that have been directly attributed to the practice. Second, the chemicals that are used will find their way into the aquifers which supply drinking water. And there is no 'fracking' mix that is used as a standard, so these could easily be known carcinogens (benzene, toluene, etc.). Finally, we are pretty much at storage capacity for natural gas in the US. Even though it does offer an alternative to oil, transporting it much more difficult than oil so it can't be offered as a commodity to the rest of the world.
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  3. ShadeDream

    ShadeDream Elite Member

    Nov 27, 2008
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    He who laughs last, laughs longest.
    Dman, makes you wonder how people come up with such technology.
  4. dys872

    dys872 Junior Member

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    Planet Earth
    people are selfish self centered and will destroy liberty, I don't think there is anything anyone can do about it
  5. Nigel Farage

    Nigel Farage BANNED BANNED

    Feb 8, 2012
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    It's part of the US's current push to reduce dependence on foreign oil. They are doing whatever they can to increase the amount of natural gas production, and currently there is an economic boom in "the oilfields", called that even though what they are drilling for is natural gas.

    Watch http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5658459/ for a good, in depth perspective on the issues. When fracturing the earth, various layers that used to be separate can then become mixed, i.e. natural gas in the water, etc...

    Nesterdwarf said most of it. There is no proof that fracking causes earthquakes, but areas of Texas are getting earthquakes that have never had them before.

    Really, the BIGGEST concern (that everyone ought to have) is that special legislation has given the oil & gas industry special exemptions to regulations by the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency), so they are not required to report what toxic chemicals they might be injecting into the earth, and possibly contaminating the water supply with. There are hundreds of possible chemicals being used for many different reasons. While acknowleding the toxic nature of these fracking chemicals, the oil & gas industry denies that there is a chance that these chemicals can contaminate drinking water. Yet, watch the "Gasland" video and see how they can set the water coming out of the kitchen tap on fire.

    The oil & gas industry denies responsibility & liability in these situations, claiming either that there is no proof that the gas wasn't in the water prior to the fracking, or that the homeowner has signed away their water rights (and the right to drink uncontaminated water) when they signed over the rights to drill for natural gas. However, there is some evidence that the oil & gas industry are practicing "sideways drilling" and are able to drill sideways beneath the earth, and cross whatever legal boundries for the mineral rights there might be. The wells are thousands of feet deep, and can move sideways for thousands of feet.

    Another concern is that the workers in the oil fields are being exposed to dangerous & toxic chemicals, and do not know it, or what they are. The oil & gas industry claims that these chemical compounds are "proprietary" and secret, and so no one knows exactly what they are using, what the general public is being exposed to, or what their own workers are being exposed to.
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