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HUGE Scrapebox Blast To Web 2.0 And Tier 1 Sites

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by makeitrain85, Oct 8, 2011.

  1. makeitrain85

    makeitrain85 Regular Member

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    We all know that it's not safe to Blast your Money site with Huge Scrapebox or Xrumer cuz it's a no no right? So I've heard a lot about the method of Blasting Web 2.0 or article directories with 5k, 10k, 50k Xrumer blast to give those 1st Tier links more juice thus eventually help them indexed and gain more and more power and thus improve the Money site right?

    What don't make sense to me is: If it is NOT OK to blast your money site with 50k SB blast because you might get a sandbox or deindexed, what makes it safe to blast those web 2.0 with tons of links? Doesn't it devalue those web 2.0 pages just like the way it devalue your money sites?

    Maybe I'm missing something here but if the web 2.0 sites GAIN more power with those huge SB or Xrumer blast, wouldn't it be the same case with my Money sites? (I'm talking about older Money sites that are more than 1 year old) I understand maybe because all those web 2.0 are AUTHORITY sites so it is ok to do that ... but in the same thought of "More Spammy SB comment links" create "Link Juice and Authority" wouldn't it be the same case with my money site?

    I've used Scrapebox on my Money site before and of course ... BAD THINGS HAPPENED.
     
  2. jamunkala

    jamunkala Regular Member

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    No, as those web 2.0 are not the sites which have that good a reputation under google's eyes. But they are still web 2.0 sites and backlinks to them give them power which in turn you will get to your main site.
     
  3. cloakndagger

    cloakndagger Power Member

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    I blast direct,never had any issues,it's more to do with obl's on your site.
     
  4. makeitrain85

    makeitrain85 Regular Member

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    Yes I understand the part "web 2.0 has more Reputation". However, I don't understand the concept of "building lots of spammy backlinks give you more power". Are you saying that if you are an Authority then More Spammy links will give you more trust and power?
     
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    I blasted direct to my Money Site and had Serious Issues back in June when all of my sites got the Panda HIT. I spun my comments like crazy, using different names and email as well. It got WORST when I used Dripable for my Money site (stupid me)
     
  6. cloakndagger

    cloakndagger Power Member

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    Affiliate links on your site by any chance?
     
  7. seoguy99

    seoguy99 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    man make your hi pr network of 10 hi pr domains and 10 hosting, would not cost you much. One time investment.
    and then send articles on those sites in a minute using AMR, get article for posting thru a co.cc website, so that you can have original article and you will be happy always.
    Not only a mind blowing indexing rate but also powerup your links.


    another thing, i have done a lot of tests with energizing my links using hi pr network and energizing using comments/profiles
    and what i can say is, its a big stupidity to energize your links thru comments/profiles.

    link energized thru hi pr network works 500 times better for me, than a link energized thru comments/profiles, also comments/profiles are not indexing much urls not a days.
    weather hi pr network does awesome.
     
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  8. mrpega

    mrpega Regular Member

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    in theory it shouldn't really matter even if you blast your money sites with sb because if thats the case your competition can sabotage you..but i feel that if you gradually increase and not all at once blast 200k links, its going to be fine.
     
  9. -Jericho-

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    I ran into the same problem post panda. I found it to be more of a problem on new sites versus older sites. I tanked 4 sites all hitting the first page after using SB on them. And I wasn't just backlinking one page but many pages on each site.

    This seems to be the way to go now. I'm getting much better results with this.

    Like I mentioned above it seems to happen to new sites but has much less of an effect on older sites. Basically established sites already ranking wouldn't have this issue if my empirical results are true.

    To OP: We're not trying to rank the web 2.0 sites usually so it doesn't matter.
     
  10. Dan Da Man

    Dan Da Man Elite Member Premium Member

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    Op, I think you are over analyzing things. Just understand that it works and it works wonders. Do not try and analyze why because we are not google and google is not perfect. Just accept it and enjoy :)
     
  11. howdareyou

    howdareyou Newbie

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    To clarify, you mean:

    -Purchase 10 domains with high PR (through dp, godaddy auctions, flippa, etc.)
    -Purchase 1 hosting account for each of the 10 domains
    -Don't do SB/xrumer blasts at all

    For each money site, do you set up another 10 domains or do you re-use the previous ones? If you re-used them, did you have unrelated content on them?
     
  12. djlest

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    another cryptic posting i see. if your going to say something works at least explain what it is...
     
  13. abookyent

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    Sending a scrapebox blast with AA blogs does work. i watched it work within 24 hours. the link juice will push your main url. its kinda sexy lol
     
  14. Dan Da Man

    Dan Da Man Elite Member Premium Member

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    wait, i thought it was bad to host all your tier 1's on the same C Class IP?

    anyone?
     
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    Yeah, the original guy said "10 hi pr domains and 10 hosting," to have different IP's. Howdareyou interpreted it wrong :)
     
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    Here is a thing. Once you own site like squidoo (PR8) you would be able to blast it directly without any problem. So it is safe because (among other things) these web 2.0 sites have good reputation, so blast doesn't harm them.

    So yes, it is probaly safer blasting High PR custom web 2.0 sites and high pr wikis, than pr0 wikis, if you are into layer 1 thing. I do not blast tier1 links with scrapebox, I start from layer3,and I blast all the Tier2 - except low PR ones with scrapebox. i would blast whole tier2 if a had a scrapebox list that isn't spammed too much.

    Keep in mind that it is always good to have IP and platform diversity, even for Tier2 links though it is not that important, if tier1 target have good reputation, although Google still may be able to detect the pattern if platforms aren't diverse enough. But there is no reason to think long term with a bitch like Google.

    Summary:
    Blast -High PR Tier1
    Do Not Blast - Low PR Tier1

    Having said that you can use something other than PR to measure site's authority.
     
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  18. birdy23

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    I used to have a brand new site like a month old. I tried blasting all web2.0's to it and scraped it with thousands of links. It still works and never got hit by Google. Therefore, I am safe to say that web2.0s can be used on new sites. No harm. Just control your contents and the spams.