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HUGE drop in conversions, wtf?!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by mistablackhat00, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. mistablackhat00

    mistablackhat00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Last night I was testing out a method I came up with, here were my stats on the email submit offer.

    390 clicks, 38 conversions, CVR 9.74%, EPC $0.14 = $53.20

    Then today I ran the same exact method, same time of day, and my stats look like this.

    466 clicks, 9 conversions, CVR 1.93%, EPC $0.03 = 12.60

    WHAT THE FUCK? I was so excited that I finally had something working. (Keep in mind, this was for two hours of running the method, so we're talking a $500 a day method here if things stayed converting well.)

    Judging from what I told you, is the problem on my end, or is it with the CPA network/offer?

    This network is supposed to have the best converting submits out there and I'm very surprised at my second day stats here.
     
  2. mistablackhat00

    mistablackhat00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Anyone able to help me with this? It's driving me absolutely nuts.
     
  3. graphox

    graphox Regular Member

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    What network? I'm not sure either, I used to get about 3 leads a day on an email submit, but it seems after a month I'm only getting like 1 lead a week...

    I think its the aff network, because I tried doing the email submit myself from a VPS and it didn't credit, when it used to credit really easily
     
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    Was it a new offer when you started? Is your traffic crappy? Are you looking at Uniques or Gross clicks?
     
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    Test the offer with a different network anyway.

    If I were you I would only change variable at a time so you can really isolate the problem. If it is not the the network that is the problem then change another variable, track and so on.
     
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  7. Evan257

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    Is it a Maxbounty freeiphone/ipad offer? Same shit happened to me. Dropped from $30.00 to $8.30 :(
     
  8. cashfusion

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    try running that offer with Affillion, epcs are good with me
     
  9. mistablackhat00

    mistablackhat00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I don't want to out the network at this time, but I'll say that they are very very reputable and many know them as the creme of the crop when it comes to email submit networks.

    I think that's what I am going to do next. It just kills me because for one, I am able to get dailies from this network which I highly prefer to re-invest, and two, this networks submits used to convert for me every time, where other networks hardly did.

    Thanks for the advice!

    Not Maxbounty, but yes, the new iPhone 5 offer! :/

    Yes, it's a fairly new offer as mentioned above. These are unique clicks, there were over 600 raw clicks.

    Thanks for the info! I figured that was how it worked. I think that's kind of silly though that they make it so they cannot lose money, they should have the same risk as the rest of us, am I right? I am not sending completely junk traffic, but I am confident it's still going to back out for the advertisers.
     
  10. mistablackhat00

    mistablackhat00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Thanks for the tip, I just don't want to have to be hopping around to different networks hoping the conversions are up, I should be able to stay with a few and concentrate on the method, not the network.
     
  11. marusia

    marusia Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure I know what network you're talking about. When I was running traffic with them, (not even email submits) I got crazy conversions. A day later, the EPC dropped to like a tenth of what I was getting even though nothing changed.
     
  12. mistablackhat00

    mistablackhat00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I wouldn't doubt that you do, haha, I basically said who it was, but didn't say their name.

    It just really sucks because like I said, they were the only network where this worked, other networks who I work with's email submits generally don't do very well.

    One other network I am with who's submits do alright only pay Net-30 unless you are doing a grand a week, then you can get weeklies, and unfortunately I need dailies until I am able to cover a weeks worth of expenses for the method at once.