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How would you invest $30,000? No investment idea to small

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by gorang, Jul 4, 2011.

  1. gorang

    gorang Elite Member

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    I'm talking right down to little things like SEO tools and niche websites.

    I've saved up $30k and i'm ready to make a big move and invest in my online empire.

    I do not believe in investing large amounts of money. I'd rather innest in lots of smaller projects and diversify my revenue streams.

    There are a few projects which I can easily ivnest in which are solid, but I want to expand my online portfolio of websites.

    How would you go about it?

    I think my best course of action to take would be to simply research niche websites and build another 10 quality sites.

    But the problem is that i'm wondering if I should actually be investing in one BIG website and use the money I have to push behind it and really kick start the site.

    I can either

    A) Manage multiple sites with simple SEO and a few pages of content, working on them monthly.

    B)Invest in a big idea, a large website and spend money on some really good SEO tools/content/press releases and have writers creating constant unique content for me.

    So really what i'm saying is i'd like to take things to the next level now that I have the fiscal power behind my ideas. I want to know what YOU would invest in, in terms of SEO tools, strategy, types of websites.

    I doubt i'll touch PPC as it is not my thing.

    So what would YOU do?
     
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    captchadreams Power Member

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    personally i'd put it to 1 or 2 ideas.. so you can truely focus on them.

    i'm currently working on a few different things just to bring in money so I can put it all towards one idea.
     
  3. gorang

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    The thing is, it si easy to say "invest", but actually how you spend the money is difficult.

    I don't want to waste money on buying links or SEO tools that suck(SENUKEX), but I want to be able to spend the money on SOMETHING which I wouldn't normally, and also on something that packs a real punch.

    I also do not want to spend all my money on building hundreds of "quality" sites only to have tremendous trouble managing them all each month in terms of SEO.

    Then there's always the questions WHERE do you invest it in terms of niche? I would be distraught if I spent it on lots of sites that don 't make any money because they are in the wrong niche.

    I think I will likely take it one step at a time, while knowing I have the power to pump out sites at will.

    It is a difficult thing to think about.
     
  4. captchadreams

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    have you ever thought about investing in something outside of SEO?

    like a site with a community and returning visitors you would like to create/run?

    you could invest that in something outside of the internet as well.

    what are your goals for the future? If you really want to work with SEO for a long time you could look into doing Local SEO and spend some money on offline advertisement creating websites, optimizing it for search engines, PPC campaigns, etc. maybe hire some people to do the tasks that you don't necessarily like the best and work on closing clients.

    This may not be something you're interested in all.. more of what I'm working towards. So I'll let some other people put some ideas in here.
     
  5. drogon

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    Its not about spending $30k and expect to make a profit. Its about reading and learning a variety of skills so you can do most on your own and outsource what you dont like doing.

    You are new at this and need to take baby steps and then when you know what you are doing and making money then can you reinvest to push it further.

    I started out with $10 a month hosting account and a few $8 domains and did it all myself after that and now earn more than i did at my (now previous) fulltime day job.

    Another good reason to learn to build sites, learn seo, learn to write optimized content, keyword research etc etc is that one you decide to outsource then you know the value of what you are getting. Not outsource seo and pay $5k for something thats actually worth $100!!

    However, your plan so far is good. Build 10 good niche related sites. get successwith those then only after would i recommend building a BIG site. Thats what im currently doing and once i hit a certain income level with the smaller sites, i will then move on to a bigger project.
     
  6. MrE

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    Did you save the money via offline means or is this earned from other projects? If earned online does the current method have any ability to scale up?

    I would suggest wetting your feet by purchasing an established revenue earning site from Flippa. Start with something small like $1,000 - $2,500, and make sure you do your due diligence on the site/earnings/rankings/backlinks, etc.

    I have had a lot of success when being patient and closely analyzing each site before investing, you can get around 10% monthly returns which is unheard of for investments.

    There is many ways to re-invest your capital if you are creative, here is a few other ideas:

    - Buy adsense websites earning revenue with good domains, solid SEO, good SE rankings and multiple channels of traffic

    - Invest to develop programs/scripts/services that will fill a huge need and have somewhat high entry standards (preventing many knockoffs from popping up)

    - Excellent domain names which you can develop websites around (local businesses as an example, I recently just stocked up on a few gem domains for local SEO)

    - Stocks & precious metals when they are below standard prices (silver and crude oil ETFs are good pickups right now IMO)

    - Re-invest into what is currently working for you and scale up larger if possible while still limiting risk exposure, if you rely on this for too much of your income then ignore and continue to diversify

    - Student rental housing (buy a house in a college city and rent it out to 4-5 students), just make sure the property has potential to appreciate in value while still putting $ in your pocket from the rental each month

    - Under valued homes which when rented can put cash in your pocket (while you sit on the property and wait for the value to go back up)

    - Use some capital to play around with different advertising techniques you aren't really experienced with (Adwords, PPV, Media Buys, or Direct Mail)

    - Invest in solid JV's with a good chance of success or solid partner (many people are out there with tons of hard work ethic and great ideas but they are lacking capital. I just recently started a few of these projects with BHW members who had excellent ideas)

    Don't limit yourself, there is many other daily situations where you can put your capital to work in an unconventional or creative way to see huge returns. No one else is thinking outside the box, keep your eyes open. (Examples include: flipping concert/sports tickets that are in demand, standard arbitrage of goods/services, etc.)

    Scale up, but scale smart. Don't put all your eggs in one basket and be sure to limit your exposure. Even though you make money online, don't reinvest it all there, look at offline options as well.

    Lastly, work hard & smart at putting your money to work and it will treat you very well by growing exponentially. Reinvest in revenue earning assets, don't piss it away on material goods!
     
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    disclaimer: i'm not affiliated with any of the sellers above
     
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    I was going to write something out, but I couldn't have said it better than this.
     
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    If you're outside of california, you could start buying amazon sites...
     
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    i think maybe u can try to start some ptc sites.... i saved up some 1000 $ and was looking to start one although i dont know if this is a really good idea :eek:

    30k$ is huge :)
     
  11. gorang

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    The ideal situation is that I have a website(s) that are regularly converting clicks into sales.

    SEO is just something i'm quite good at which is why I mainly target it. I've got a big project which is partly offline in the pipeline but it doesn't need investment.
     
  12. gorang

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    I've been doing this for 8 years.
     
  13. gorang

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    Thanks a lot for this. I've bookmarked it and will think a lot about it.

    Investing in existing websites is a great idea. I know I sold a bargain on their once which quadrupled in traffic within a year.

    The only problem is that if I get it wrong and invest in a website that turns sour i'm pretty much fuxed.

    I'm going to take a look at flippa now.
     
  14. jumpjumper

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    I would invest that by creating an ecommerce site. Do SEO, online marketing, inventory for the site. Make it brandable and that way, many years down the road you will still have it earning income for you.