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How to use CL and not get in trouble from CPA networks!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Mayson, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. Mayson

    Mayson Registered Member

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    Hello all, have something to share with you.

    I know there are a ton of people utilizing CL to pull tons of traffic to their cpa offers. here is how i do it:

    This method is a mix of blackhat and whitehat. The main concept to grasp is to use all methods possible (BH) to get the user to your whitehat landing page. this way, the CPA network will see the referrer as your whitehat landing page, and leave you alone.

    How do you do this effectively without losing to many leads?

    I know many of you use the WP CPA Redirector, and that is fantastic, but when i was using that, i was always worried about the CPA network going to give me a fight before my check comes in the mail. This is what i decided to do:

    They key is to set up a "transition page" between your supposed "original landing page" and the offer. The transition page should seem like it would follow your original landing page, so make sure it goes along. It is like this:

    CL ---> Transition page ---> Offer ---> $$$

    what the CPA network thinks you are doing is this:

    PPC ---> Landing Page ---> Transition Page ---> Offer ---> $$$

    Here is a live example site of how this method works:

    Code:
    h++p://bhmaster*uuuq*com/ 
    Replace + with t and * with .

    Now what do we put on this "Transition Page" ?

    All it takes is a simple "Thank You" with a button to go to the offer.

    For example:

    Lets say you are running a CPA offer for a free iPod. You want your CPA network to think that the traffic is coming from PPC. Now you need to do two things at once; make it look pleasing for the user who is visiting the page from real PPC traffic (if you are using both PPC and CL traffic), and the person visiting from your CL traffic. If you are only doing this from CL traffic only, then i suggest your read this post here:
    Code:
    h++p://www*blackhatworld*com/blackhat-seo/making-money/64101-my-personal-method-make-300-day-cl-shoot-yourself-if-does-not-work-you.html
    
    Let me know how this works for you all!

    Thanks are appreciated
     
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  2. ~@-kanye-west-@~

    ~@-kanye-west-@~ Power Member

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    so all the CL traffic will go to transtition page.. is that what you are sayin??

    so we dont really need the landing page..

    cause all they can see is the traffic coming from the transition page..
     
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  3. Mayson

    Mayson Registered Member

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    Well i use BOTH PPC and CL advertising. But i use different transition pages anyways, so yes, for CL, you only need the transition page. If CPA network questions you, you tell them you do PPC, and your PPC landing page goes to the thank you page, then to the CPA offer.
     
  4. dondeal

    dondeal Registered Member

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    Thanks for the tip
     
  5. cheesecake

    cheesecake Regular Member

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    How to you get the users from cl to the actual offer? With another cpa redirect?

    CL-> cpa reditector -> landing page -> cpa redirector -> offer ?
     
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  6. Qball

    Qball Registered Member

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    Thanks for the post.

    Please answer above question.

    Regards
    --Q
     
  7. Mayson

    Mayson Registered Member

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    Actually, if i understand your question correctly, i send the CL user to the transition page, then they click a button on the transition page to get to the offer.

    The CL lead never sees the landing page. and i don't use a redirector. I've found that conversions really aren't affected if the user has to click one button on the transition page.

    I hope this answers your question. if it didn't, please post again and try to be more specific. Thanks!
     
  8. cheesecake

    cheesecake Regular Member

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    Hi Mayson.

    Yeah.. exactly that. I was wondering if having a button on the LP would affect conversions.
    You could also have a button on the LP AND redirect, so that your AM can see the button, but the user is taken directly to the offer.

    I'll try them both and see what works better for what I'm working with.

    Thanks!
     
  9. Mayson

    Mayson Registered Member

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    Let me know what works best!
     
  10. alewin77

    alewin77 Newbie

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    Why do you not do a 5 second refresh on your transition page. I'm sure that would up your opt in rate. Just use a meta refresh
     
  11. Mayson

    Mayson Registered Member

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    doing a refresh won't make it seem white hat. If the AM goes to the link under the reff, they will go and it will redirect, resulting in a ban of my account
     
  12. kphutton

    kphutton Newbie

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    thanks for the tip, I do something very similar to this that has been very effective :)
     
  13. karukera

    karukera Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    2 things here:

    Firstly, why should I be banned if do double meta-refresh since for email traffic referrer is blanked anyway. What's wrong with letting networks think that you are doing email marketing?

    Secondly, in your transition page do you just use your real affiliate link without any masking?

    Thanks ;-)
     
  14. Mayson

    Mayson Registered Member

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    well CL advertising is prohibited on almost all CPA networks.

    And yes, i do mask, and i should have fixed that. When the user clicks the green button on the transition page, they go to a .php redirect.

    =]
     
  15. Claudiu

    Claudiu Regular Member

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    I don't understand why so many pages when you could have resumed this to 2pages.
    1page where the cl user lands on, and from which he'll press a go button to see the 2nd page ( the advertiser offer ).

    P.S tell me pls if by CL stands for c a r e e r l a u n c h e r . com
     
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  16. karukera

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    Of course CL is prohibited lol. But if you blank your CL traffic, CPA networks will think that you are doing email marketing, which is NOT prohibited of course. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    And when you say the user clicks the green button on the transition page and is then redirected...hum sorry for asking silly questions but why redirecting since the whole point was to make the CPA networks think that you are precisely USING a transition page. Doesn't it defeat the whole purpose of the process? I thought that the more "transparent" you were, the better it was for CPA networks.
     
  17. zone69

    zone69 Junior Member

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    Email traffic does not blank the referrer in most cases. Do not forget most are using yahoo, msn live, gmail, etc and those will definitely show up as the referrer.
     
  18. Bruceorange

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    What kind of ads do you post on CL anyway?
     
  19. CyberDilemma

    CyberDilemma Regular Member

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    CL stands for craigslist, Claudiu.
     
  20. foreclosureking

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    Or,just use a wordpress blog as the blank ref page. This works just fine. Been doing it for years. Plus, it's much easier to create for noobs.

    1. Create a WP blog ( Name it something related to your product. )
    2. Steal some content or have some written related to the product
    3. Paste the affiliate's html code for a banner or image ad in your blog
    4. Use the URL of the blog as the live link in your CL ad

    Ta daa!

    Clean traffic that could be coming from PPC, search or even email.

    I keep it simple.

    Hit Thank you, if you can use this info....
     
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