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How To Tell If My Site Has Been Penalized? (pictures / data included!!!)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SpiderBlast, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. SpiderBlast

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    *Warning: This thread is long but I'll gladly rep & thanks anyone who takes the time to advise me.

    So I made this site last January and started SEO on it around March, at which point traffic started going
    through the roof, the site started producing lots of calls and became very profitable.


    • The home page is well done, very well written content.
    • Then there are 20 high quality pages that link to the home page, all well done.
    • However, there are about 40 geotargeted, spun pages that target local towns / keywords.
    • I took my time (30-40 hours) making the spintax, and all the articles were above 90% uniqueness.
    • On top of that, I took about 10 minutes editing each article before uploading them to the site. To make
    • sure there were no typos, no grammar problems, and I'd randomly remove / add a few sentences just
    • to make the articles that much more "unique".

    Anyway, since March, traffic has been between 600-1000 impressions / day.
    Around August 9th, traffic plummeted down to 200 impressions a day.
    We went from 3-4 calls / day to 1 call every other day.
    And recently, it seems we're getting a call like twice a week (which is terrible).

    None of my spun articles link to my homepage, but only to my 20 high quality articles ... and those link
    to the homepage. The reason I used spun content? Because my #1 competitor was. And he's been #1
    for 4-5 years now. He also has A LOT more spun geotargeted pages. I'd say around 6 times the amount
    I have. But I still outranked him eventually, and things were going great.

    Anyway, here is my Google WMT

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    You can see the drop on 8/9, then traffic kind of came back, and I thought things would get back to normal.
    Then Oct 4th happened, keywords dropped again, and traffic is low again like it was after 8/9.

    I've NEVER had issues with the site or keywords dropping like this ever since the site was made.

    Here are graphs of my keywords -

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    If you look closely, you can see certain keywords that dropped on 8/9 and the corresponding drop in WMT.
    Then you can see the drop on 10/4, and another drop in traffic.

    With that said, there are a few very important factors I'm leaving out:

    1) My google local is primarily whats ranking now.
    2) And Serpfox is picking up my google local ranking, NOT my website.
    3) My homepage use to rank on page 1 for various keywords, along with google local now the home page doesn't rank for anything.
    4) My homepage has not been deindexed.
    5) Some of my higher quality back pages still show up (on page 2 or 3) and some of my spun pages still show up (on page 2 or 3).

    Then there are other weird things I've noticed. Like I checked my backlinks with SEO Spyglass, and found about 24 weird links
    that I never built, and I know my SEO guy would never build. They look like shitty GSA / exploit type links.

    So that made me wonder if someone tried to neg SEO my site. My top competitor has been to jail before, I know he's a piece of
    shit, so he DOES have the potential to do something like that. At the same time, if someone was trying to neg SEO my site I'd
    expect A LOT more links then just a couple dozen.

    My SEO guy is great at ranking sites, and the only link building I did previous to him was MANUAL posting to blogger, wordpress
    and other authority web 2.0. I did NOT use spun content on any of these properties (I used dragon naturally speaking to do the
    articles since its quick).

    I have NOT received any messages, errors, or penalty notifications in my WMT.

    I'm just not sure whats going on. If someone would like to know my site, or the guy I use for SEO you can pm me. But I'd
    rather not post that stuff in the open. Since my rankings came back somewhat after 8/9, I'm wondering if they will come back
    again.... or whether I should ditch this site and move on to a new one?

    My SEO guy DOES use blackhat. He has his own private network, but he blocks his links from google, ahrefs and all other
    link tracking software. For as long as I've been using him he's gotten me through every update. And I for the last couple years
    I've barely seen any complaints about his service, only awesome feedback. The last couple days though I have seen a couple
    people complaining about their sites being tanked, although it was only 2-3 people. And I know about 99% of people using him
    are still getting excellent results as they post on a daily basis.

    So my question is.... does this look like a penalized site?
    Does it look like dancing?


    Are there any bored SEO's who'd like to take a look at the actual site? :eek:

    I just want to know whether its time to move on, or what a pro would do?
    I've messaged my SEO guy, and he said a small % of his clients WERE effected, but he has a good idea whats going on and is
    working on a fix. I do have a lot of confidence in him, but at the same time I realize that noone can control Google.

    Sorry for the long thread, but if ANYONE has ANY advice I would REALLY appreciate it. :D

    Thanks a lot! - SB
     
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  2. Veyron

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    Check your backlink profile in greater depth with AHREFS. I think you're suffering from a "Negative SEO" hit from the sound of it.

    Veyron
     
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  3. SkyrocketSEO

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  4. SpiderBlast

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    Was it REALLY that funny?

    What I think is >> HILARIOUS << , is you wasted your time reading my entire post, just to pick
    out 1 detail you could laugh at and boost your fragile little ego. Now THATS funny.

    This guy makes more money when he shits, than most SEO's make in a year.

    And in business (you may not know this) its quite common for people to work with their clients
    to try to resolve problems. HAR HAR HAR.

    I've used over a couple dozen SEO companies / providers, have spent well over 5 figures testing
    services, and this is the ONLY guy I'd reuse EVEN IF one of my sites got penalized. Thats
    how profitable he is for the majority of my sites.

    You can go on clowning over details, but for the folks who don't have ADD... what are
    your thoughts?

    Wait it out?
    Start a new site?

    I haven't gotten 1 site penalized prior to this which is why I'm asking. I'm not sure when
    you decide 100% "xxx site is done" and move on.

    -SB




     
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    Really? He must be a guru or something, right? I know cause all guru's "make more money when they shit".
    And, if that guy is so knowledgeable and earning major moolah, why don't you ask him?
     
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  6. SpiderBlast

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    Well I posted in his thread & am still awaiting a response. But I wanted to get advice from other
    guys in the meantime.

    I might as well ask straight out.... does anyone know who Ceasar is? On WF?

    IME, I haven't found anyone who can rank sites as fast as he does, and gets high rankings quick.

    I also know he has tons of repeat customers (for years) and I've made a small fortune using
    his services. So naturally I respect the guy, but I know noones perfect, and he doesn't claim to
    be either... but he DOES get the best results compared to anyone else I've tried (and I've tried
    A LOT).

    I didn't want to post who he was, but if there are other people who know him / have used him
    let me know what you think about his service. It seems 98% of his customers love his work,
    then theres always a small bunch who fall through the cracks. He's gotten me through every
    other update so I had confidence in him... but maybe the hummingbitch was too much too
    handle.. idrk.

    -SB
     
  7. thejesus

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    I've been shitting for free all this time like an idiot, where can I download an ebook on this?
     
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  8. goldendeli

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    Homey of course you were penalized via the recent algorithm updates. That doesn't even need to be discussed and its obvious that you know based on the analysis you have done.

    Your SEO "guy" needs to start cleaning up those links but my gut tell sme that these were outsourced links and he isn't gonna be of much help.

    Id start with a link removal service and then disavowing those links that cant be removed.
     
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    hahaha good one :D

    As it was said, you need to check your backlink profile with ahrefs or majestic etc. only then you will know for sure
     
  10. justin

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    HAHAHA at your Sig. Yes I do.
     
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