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How to Succeed at Internet Marketing & Business

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by BlueTurtle, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. BlueTurtle

    BlueTurtle BANNED BANNED

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    I was helping someone out in a PM with some advice that I thought would be useful for everyone.

    The main difference between the best, most successful internet marketers and the rest who never make money is this:

    Most people when they start a new project will immediately look for profit from day 1 and if they don't get profit on their first couple of attempts they give up and either try something else, or they get depressed and go back to the forums/tv/games for a while.

    The very best internet marketers, the guys who make 6-7 figures per year don't look for profit when they start. What they do is gather data, data and more data.

    See the difference in mindset and how important it is? How can you fail when your goal is to gather data?

    This applies not only to ppc, but to SEO, emailing, video marketing, social media and just about any method out there. Don't start with the intention of making money. Start with the intention of gathering data like a scientist.

    Keep DETAILED notes of your 'experiments' using your favorite method. I personally recommend a tree-based notepad called ActionOutline, but whatever you're comfortable with will be best.

    Your entire marketing and business career should be documented in your notes. Everything you do including every useful site, tip, method, success, failure and all your contacts should be kept there. It's also helpful to take a daily journal just writing brief notes about what you're doing on that day to help you track your activities.

    When you approach your online marketing business from the angle of gathering data about what works and what doesn't work then taking detailed notes, you literally CANNOT fail. How CAN you fail? The only way you can fail is if you don't do the work and take the notes.

    Think of the peace of mind that change in philosophy will give you. You no longer have to worry about something succeeding or not, because it's just one of many 100's of experiments you'll be doing and with each one you're learning what doesn't work, getting you closer and closer to what does work.


    So sit back, relax and enjoy your business. Don't have any expectations about making profit in any fixed time-frame. Have your profit goals, but don't put a rigid time-frame on them that puts pressure on yourself. You have your goal, then you set out every day to do your experiments, getting closer and closer each day. The more work you do, the more experiments you get done, the closer you get to profit.


    I hope these thoughts are of help to some of you who are feeling stressed and feeling like you're failing/have failed.
     
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    .:mAestro:. Regular Member

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    I enjoy reading all your posts. So many great tips in all segments of IM... Just wow!
    This should be eye-opener for many around here.

    Thanks man ;)
     
  3. jamesvick

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    same problem here /games/

    But thanks for posting this. All those who are successful really know how to stay focused.
     
  4. afimafis

    afimafis Newbie

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    thanks a lot for valuable infos.

     
  5. anil595

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    Thank you , i appreciate and follow your advice.
     
  6. Theseus!

    Theseus! Junior Member

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    So fvcking true!! I'm just new in this forum btw..
    I take action of CPA!I fail once but then i give up!i go back playing RPG games(wasting my time on it).. but after reading a lot of this forum reagarding their making money journey and some motivational movies share here.. It really helps alot!
     
  7. BlueTurtle

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    Yeah, you need to actually have FUN while building your business.

    The reason it's not fun for people is because they have too much EXPECTATION.

    When you play a game or watch tv you have no expectation. You're completely at ease, so the experience is pleasurable.

    The reason that the rich get richer is not because they have money to invest, it's because they have no expectation for success. They don't start a project thinking "ohhh god, I so need to succeed this time". They just wake up feeling great and start new projects, enjoying the process of creating something.

    The best thing you can all do is just accept your current circumstances and realize that you can already be happy with what you have. Happiness comes from inside, not out. It *really* does. :) When you realize that you can already be happy then you can start to just enjoy building your business.

    Enjoy the current phase of your life as well as looking forward to what lies ahead. Don't constantly stress about the future and think you need money to be happy or something else to be happy, because you don't. When you're happy, success and money will come.

    Happiness/success creates money, it's not money that creates money, but happiness and success are JUST a mindset, so once you all realize that the key to money is just your mindset you'll all start seeing amazing changes.

    When you change your thinking on internet marketing from the "i'm trying to make profit" to the "i'm trying to gather data to find out what works and doesn't work" then you eliminate that "fear" you get that holds you back. That's the most important part of all this and it's what'll lead to success.


    There's many threads like this on the forum and people tend to get motivated in the short-term, but then go back to their old ways because fear creeps in. The difference here is I'm giving you a new tool to keep that fear away which quite simply is

    Wake up every day and do your marketing experiments to gather data/learn rather than trying to make profit. People enjoy reading the forum to learn, but they FEAR starting work? Why? Because they fear failure. Take a look at the threads with the methods on them. In every one you'll see dozens of people say things like "Does this still work?" -- Can you see now how stupid that question is now you know the real approach to making money and learning? If you see a new method now what will you do/think? You won't care if it still makes money, because your goal isn't to make money, your goal is to find out as much data as possible about that method yourself by testing and recording your results for your personal records. Tweak EVERYTHING. Be a machine. Test 100's of variations on things. Don't create 1 web site to SEO, create 25, 5 sites for each niche and create a different SEO plan for each. Then even if they all rank you've just learned 5 different SEO plans that don't work. How long will it be before you find the one that does work?


    Check out this post by virus1:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/420940-pinterest-really-good-making-money.html#post4019077

    This is an example of what I'm talking about. Virus does what I'm describing here without thinking about it.

    Do you guys think any of the successful people here just attempt something once and succeed? Hell no. You just keep testing and testing and testing. It can take weeks or months depending on how hard you work to find the meat.

    Almost everything works, you just have to dig deep enough into it. Generally the methods you find on bhw are stuff that HAS worked in the past, or stuff that works slightly, but that will get saturated quickly because of the size of the forum. The methods you find here are only your starting point, not your end-game.


    This is what I think happens with many of you:

    1) You spend months on the forum reading, learning. You think the forum is the place to learn working methods and gain practical knowledge. You get yourselves so worked up and believe so strongly this time you're going to be able to just go and do something and make profit first time with all this new knowledge.

    2) You try something, fail, then feel discouraged.


    You really have it mixed up. The forum is not the place where you learn methods, it's a place where you can AUGMENT your existing knowledge, but it's only 20% of the information. The other 80% you get from your own experiments. Your own experiments are your secret vault of knowledge for only you and guess what, there'll be NOTHING left out.

    Instead of spending those months on the forums reading and learning, which are easy aren't they? Relaxing. Do the same with your projects. Spend months doing different stuff not caring about profit. The difference is after 6 months of reading the forum you'll have a mish-mash of information and either think you have it nailed, or be more confused than ever. If you've spent 6 months trying stuff out keeping detailed notes then you'll have learned a lot of serious stuff.

    I laugh when I see people say stuff like "I've been trying for months and I've failed". The reason they've failed is because they just randomly tried bits and pieces of things without taking any notes or learning. Structure your projects like real experiments, keeping spreadsheets and other detailed notebooks with every bit of useful information contained within them.

    Long post here, but why not. :) I just felt like getting these thoughts out while everything is clear. All the millionaires have the right mindset, but very few of them can explain what it is or put it in useful terms that most can apply. Although I do practice what I preach myself, this all became clear to me last night when helping someone, so I thought I'd share it all and even if I can change one person's life for the better then my job is done!
     
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  8. BlueTurtle

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    Just thought I'd add something else.

    So I was reading this

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/421075-dispelling-search-engine-optimization-myths-once-all.html

    Now most people after reading that are going to be more confused than when they started, but this is perfect material for the "marketing scientist"(my new name for this 'method' :) )

    Instead of asking questions which the OP will never answer in enough detail to be useful, all you have to do is go and register a bunch of .info's and test everything he's saying, then you'll really learn for yourself exactly what he's saying without him having to tell you anything. Most people give away more than you think because all you have to do is test to find out their secrets, but most know that no one does this so their info is safe and they can reap the benefits of posting "useful" stuff without giving away info.

    So put your new way of doing business to the test and start experimenting with the things discussed in that thread. Don't ask the OP a single thing, it's futile. All the info awaits you in your experiments if you're willing to do them.
     
  9. Theseus!

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    Thanks with all the advises blueturtle!
    I will just keep pushing to learn IM efficiently.. though i don't know when ,where, and how to start.
    All i do as of now is read and read! as what you said gather some data, download e-books..

    As what the secret said: Thoughts become THINGS

    Godbless you blueturtle :)
     
  10. BlueTurtle

    BlueTurtle BANNED BANNED

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    You're welcome.

    Stop reading and starting experimenting thought. Become an IM scientist!

    Yeah, reality creation exists. It's why I'm emphasizing above things like having no expectation and getting rid of fear by only experimenting instead of trying to make profit with every attempt. You can't create the physical realities that you want when fear comes into play. Fear and joy are the 2 energies that create reality. If you feel you've failed, then experience fear, you've just created a reality of failure. In that moment the best thing you can do is remind yourself you've not failed and try to feel happy in the knowledge that you succeeded in learning what doesn't work which brought you 1 step closer to what does.

    Remember, stop reading, start experimenting. That's the only thing people need to get out of everything I've said.
     
  11. Bristex

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    Great info turtle! I'm new to IM and am using OneNote to take notes about methods I'm reading. Looking to get accepted by some cpa networks soon!
     
  12. maggie1982

    maggie1982 Registered Member

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    I agree with what you said. A lot fail because they expect instant profit on day 1. It doesn't happen overnight. Everything starts from scratch.
     
  13. Heatz

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    I'll always enjoy this kind of posts. When I first got here (on BHW), I remember I felt so lucky. I remember I was already taking action on everything I wanted to achieve, all the business ideas I had were already rolling, but when I got here, they got on steroids. Black hat internet marketing is the way, and posts like this make me remember what I first felt, all those possibilities...

    Thanks man. There is not such thing as being TOO motivated.
     
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    That's a really good post on how to get succesful. Thank you
     
  15. Freddy4Fingers

    Freddy4Fingers Newbie

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    Thanks BlueTurtle, some really good posts! I can find myself using this method, except I''m not taking time to take enough notes of my online actions. And the notes that I've aren't well organized. Time to download ActionOutline! :)
     
  16. BlueTurtle

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    Yep, ActionOutline is great. I like it because it's simple, clean and powerful. I'm not a fan of bloated programs that waste time. The name of the game is simple, effective efficiency(lol what a mouthful).

    ActionOutline costs $40 btw and the trial version is useless for our purposes, so if money is a bit tight for any of you atm you have some other options:

    1) There's a cracked version on thevault.bz, although once you've made some spare $$ please do buy it and support the developer.

    2) There's a bunch of tree/hierarchy based alternatives listed here: http://superuser.com/questions/83417/simple-tree-notepad-like-editor so you should be able to find something good/free there

    You're welcome.



    The change you need to make is to stop reading and taking notes about methods you're reading, and start DOING then taking notes about the stuff you're DOING. Sign up to a CPA network today. Just one network. Keep it simple. Sign up to a network, try a few things, take a few notes, then maybe try another network next week. Keep it simple and have fun.




    Yep, glad you enjoyed it. :)
     
  17. dreamcoder28

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    epic!

     
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    great post....but problem is i cant get out of games......
     
  19. HunteR.

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    i appreciate and follow your advice.