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How to stay at the this position in google

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by theexpress, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. theexpress

    theexpress Regular Member

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    Hi

    I have reached the position in the serps with the big that i want to be at,

    What is the best plan to stay in this position?

    I was thinking of these

    1.Add fresh content 3 times a week

    2.Build backlinks to relevant sites

    3. Profiles backlinks,

    4.Maybe a linkwheel once a week

    5.Submit a article once a week to to ezine

    6.A scrape box blast once a week.

    Anything else and do i need to scale up alot more?

    Thanks
     
  2. Crixus

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    It really depends on the niche and competition. If you have many sites gunning for this position and they are working for it, you may need to keep it up. It may not take much at all if they're not.

    Regardless though, your site may move in the serp no matter what you do, it can happen. Plan for it to happen, and if it doesn't, bonus.
     
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  3. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Like Crixus said, there are too many variables to give a definitive answer but I would do all of the above at the very least with the exception of the linkwheel.
     
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  4. pirondi

    pirondi Power Member

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    In my experience Content will not help,the main factor is backlink.

    The most of my sites starts to fall after 1 month without any new links,so try to constaly add backlinks to your site.
     
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  5. theexpress

    theexpress Regular Member

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    Thanks guys for all of that,

    You know it says exception of the linkwheel, does this mean the linkwheel side of things is not worth doing anymore,

    What else should i be doing apart from the above?

    Thanks
     
  6. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    The linkwheel is seen as a contrived scheme to defraud the search engines and the process can hurt you. PM me if you want my actual strategy that I have been doing for over a year that is not sen by google et al and gets better with age.
     
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  7. Crixus

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    I wouldn't linkwheel because the sites all link together which is easily identified and not natural.
     
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  8. black1111

    black1111 Junior Member

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    increase backlinks as much as you can because the old backlinks stop working which may make the rankings low.
     
  9. pirondi

    pirondi Power Member

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    I never tested if Link whell is working or not,and i have sure that 90% of people that say that link wheel dont work never tested but I already tested Link pyramid and works.

    Example:

    Money site
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    Web 2.0
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    Profiles,blog comment,whatever
     
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  10. polocolto

    polocolto Regular Member

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    Is linkwheel really a forbidden tecnique? I see a lot of sites doing that for years and no punishment whatsoever. Where is it stated that google punishes linkwheel? If it wasn't forbidden i'd give a lot of exemples of people that dominate serps with linkwheels of sites hosted on the same server.
     
  11. Crixus

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    I didn't say it was forbidden nor that it didn't work. However, if you map links out, and use any kind of visual representation or graph, this type of thing sticks out bigtime.

    You can take any type of method or technique that someone says works, and find examples where it won't. You can also find techniques that people say don't work, or you should stay away from, and find examples that do work.

    Old sites that have gotten away with certain things in the past sometimes get a pass. Try that method on a new site and see where it gets you.

    Back in the day, years ago, a popular method was to just have money sites and crosslink them all - every one of them, in the footer or something similar. I'm sure it worked great for a while, and you might even find some sites doing this today. I sure don't see them in the serp that often any more, what about you? What did the people relying on that linking method do when it quit working? If that was their entire backlink strategy, hmmm.

    For example, say you build this nice, massive link wheel and point to your money site. Might work fine for a month or year, or google may figure it out algorithmically, or maybe someone files a spam report. G looks at your site, your backlinks and easily identifies your little link wheel since it's all linked together in this nice big ring. What do you suppose happens next? Do you think your chances might be better if your backlinks looked natural and weren't all linked together?

    A linkwheel might make sense to you, go for it if it does! You might make money and never look back. To people who have been doing this for a while, and know what something might smell like to an SE, this is sketchy ground. And if you think they're going to put into their guidelines exactly what to do and not to do? Good luck with that.

    If you're churning and burning domains, looking for short term money, and just want to juice whatever you can while you can, these kinds of opinions don't really matter. However, if you're in this for the long haul, and consider your domains and sites valued resources, you might want to think your linking ideas through a bit more completely before acting.
     
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  12. nicefirework

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    Linkwheel is implisitly forbiden technique, check matcutts blog for sure:
    mattcutts.com/blog/pagerank-sculpting/

     
  13. Galation

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    Yeah, it depends how much your competition is doing and you'll have to be doing more than them; that's the bottom line really. Just keep the links flowing in from different sources.
     
  14. chickenLittle

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    but your course of action is quite relevance as i have taken some of the steps before to scale up. congrats on that part. ;)
     
  15. Crixus

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    PR sculpting has nothing to do with linkwheels.
     
  16. polocolto

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    I think nothing will happen. Will google de-index your sites because of linkwheel? Do you know anyone that was penalized because of linkwheel? I don't. I do, however, know a lot of people that use linkwheel and dominate serps for more than 2 years.

    I monitor a guy that builds a new site every 10 days and add it to his linkwheel. His money site takes 2 spots on the first page of G for dozens of extremelly competitive keywords. Same server, same adsense id, same wordpress template and he is there, taking the first 2 spots for 2 years now.

    Why is linkwheel bad for G. If your wheels are not crap site i think G doesn't care at all.
     
  17. S1R1US

    S1R1US Newbie

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    I know this is newb, but I've been out of it for a few years now and terms seem a bit different. What's the definition of Backlink and Linkwheel? I can surmise an educated guess from the name, but was hoping for a more detailed explanation of each.

    Thanks!:)