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How to rank well in Google.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by especial, Jul 13, 2009.

  1. especial

    especial Registered Member

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    Hi all,
    Basically im new here but i am willing to learn and to do research.
    Ive read alot of posts and it says that backlinking is key for ranking success.
    But i have done some research on a website which is a { blogspot } ranking number one over 97,000,000 competitors.
    I am wondering what has the person done to the site.
    I have done a backlink check and to my surprise it has two backlinks
    SO, whats the way to rank well? How Google Determine the ranking.
    Thanks
     
  2. nossie

    nossie Regular Member

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    Tell me the website and the keyword you have searched for to see this blog #1 in google serps.

    Then I will tell you why he is number one :)
     
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  4. especial

    especial Registered Member

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    @nossie
    search free playstation 3 in Big G.. u'll find out about 2 blogger... i wonder how they got ranked up high.Let me know if you know the trick

    @wiz
    Thanks.Thats informational
     
  5. monsterclicks

    monsterclicks Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Its not very difficult . . . . (just takes work)

    #1 - Content
    #2 - back links
    #3 - Onsite Optimization

    I am still not sure why people pay for SEO. . . . I can understand paying for a particular service such as social book marking or forum posting, but never pay for SEO.
     
  6. especial

    especial Registered Member

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    But as i said.. a blogspot site with less than 5 backlink got first in over 97 mil competitors
    I'm willing to learn.. but this get me frustrated because what i knew sites must have backlinks but i just wondered what they did to rank such high
     
  7. boro

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    seems to be pr 2 to me with 1000 backlinks if we are looking at the same site
     
  8. FleshJoe

    FleshJoe Power Member

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    Please list the URL of the competitor. Then we can have an informed discussion.
     
  9. especial

    especial Registered Member

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    @joe search free playstation 3 in Google. Two blogspot sites rank 1st and 2nd respectively.

    @boro So, if i have more links lets say 1100 links. Shall i overtake him. Provided my contents are perfect and insite seo is average
     
  10. Bombastic

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    It probably has more than 2 backlinks, I don't think you checked it properly. And the backlinks (or lots of them) probably have anchor text that is the same or similar to the words you typed in to find that site. If you want to rank for the term "I eat cellphone batteries" then you need to have that as the anchor text in backlinks.

    The quality of backlinks is important too. And oder sites tend to become more trusted by Google than new sites.
     
  11. especial

    especial Registered Member

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    @bombastic Thanks for the info. I might have done a mistake on backlink checking. Sorry,my bad.

    So, basically how long does a fresh site take to rank up a competitive niche.
    Provided i have constant backlinks added
    Fresh content.

    Another thing there are many confusions out there, what is the number limit for backlinks everyday? Ive search in BHW some said unlimited some say 100 some say this and that..
    Thanks
     
  12. boro

    boro Regular Member Premium Member

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    Code:
    free-playstation-3.blogspot.com
    pr 2 1000 backlinks
    Code:
    your-ps3-for-free.blogspot.com
    pr 0 288 backlinks
     
  13. FleshJoe

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    Boro thanks, for free-playstation-3.blogspot.com I'm seeing 1100 backlinks (and many very interesting ones at that ;) ).
     
  14. boro

    boro Regular Member Premium Member

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    just running it through seo elite strange backlinks from head of googles webspam team :D
     
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  15. FleshJoe

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    OK so I looked. First of all these blogger blogs have A-G-E, they're old. So they rank better just because of that. Then, the owner of the 1st one has been consistently dropping links since at least 2006, and he's built up between 1K-2K.

    All in all I'd say beating the 1st one is going to be *very hard*. Move on or find another long tail keyword.
     
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    seems there are a fair few backlinks with the anchor text mark (webspam team)
    as FleshJoe said move on dont waste your time on it
     
  17. especial

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    Thanks joe n boro.
    @joe.
    Erm, according to what you said, age is a factor. Ok if let's say i spam more links into , would it improve my serp at least to top page. Im not doing on this niche but i have researching on keywords and serps
     
  18. boro

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    Ive always found keywords in domain name to be a massive headstart
     
  19. eskimo

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    1. good domain name (preferably the key word you are targeting)
    • lots of relevant, keyword rich content
    • lots of decent backlinks (try have your keyword as the anchor text)
    • lots of traffic (before you rank, use kijiji and CL to get some traffic)
    • time (the longer your domain has been up, the better)

    those are the 5 most important in my books.
    i have gotten a lot of sites of mine to page 1 for pretty competitive keywords pretty quickly. i think the absolute quickest and easiest way is the domain name, but obviously you will usually struggle to get the one you want. this will not instantly make your site rank well, but if its a quite low competition keyword, it helps A LOT.

    i recently created a site, 21stgifts.co.za , where my main targeted keyword is 21st gifts, and within a week it was number 2 in googl3 (pages from SA) for that. i had virtually no content on the site. granted, it is a south african domain, so the competition is not as great as .com, but its still there
     
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    hmmm most of his backlinks have 'Mark' as anchor text... But I guess he has lots of them so he ranks