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How to prevent Google from detecting your money sites?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Xlr8, May 11, 2016.

  1. Xlr8

    Xlr8 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP

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    Hi guys,
    I have a few affiliates sites in the pipeline.Apart from that I also have a few local sites and my own agency site.Ive never handled so many sites before but now that I do I want to keep them safe.

    Currently I am on a shared hosting package from Hostgator. How are you guys hosting all your money sites? I was think of getting a dedicated server with seperate IP for each domain.

    What are your opinions?
     
  2. SEO Wings

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    Getting separate IP for each domain is the better option. You can't able to hide anything from Google.
     
  3. RafaViQ

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    Would like to know this also. Bump
     
  4. Xlr8

    Xlr8 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP

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    Well, I've kept my cookie jar hidden from Google.

    Haha. On a serious note, though, I don't want to hide them from Google(why would I even want that). I just want to hide the fact that all the websites are being managed by the same guy.

    So maybe things like different emails, different GWT and analytics account, different registrars, different hosting,different IP.

    Just wanna know what the big guys here do?
     
  5. Xlr8

    Xlr8 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP

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    Bumping this up.

    Is reseller hosting a good option? Different cPanel for each money site.?
     
  6. mirrorer

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    I will give you the best cost-effective solution that I use myself too.

    1.Buy a dedicated server, I use joesDatacenter myself but you can buy whatever fits you best. (Ovh is another option too but when you buy lot of ips with them,they want you to sign a contract with your details saying you wont spam,abuse etc etc,while this is not a big issue,the problem is that your name will appear when someone does a who is on the ips.)

    2.Buy WHM (cPanel). I used to use DirectAdmin which is free but is a pain in the ass over the time.Security is an issue too.

    3.Buy dedicated ips & assign them to your desired domain. Don't forget to change SOA records too.Usually this is the default email address of your account and is available to the public when they analyze your dns records.You want to change SOA records to something like [email protected]. To do that on your WHM,see the following picture. The format of your email should be like this info.yoursite.com (you have to use . instead of @ )


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    4.Use clicky analytics instead of G Analytics.

    5.Use different registrars.


    These steps will make it hard for anyone to connect your sites or reverse lookup.

    Good luck.Let me know if you need help with anything else.
     
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    I think the best option for you would be to use a Linux VPS + CentOS + WHM & cPanel + Additional IPs.

    This way, you protect your main IP (VPS IP) because it is not shared with dozens of other users The VPS is only for you. And then each additional website will have its own dedicated IP.

    The cheapest solution I can think of for this is $21/month but maybe there are other offers.

    Good luck mate!
     
  8. THUNDERELVI

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    Since your sites are not part of a PBN nor are they connected to each other, I can't see the reason why you need to do this. I own a LOT of sites, all registered with 1 registrar, protected with whois privacy, same server and use only a dozen IP-s for all of them. I never had any problems. Google doesn't give a fuck how many sites you own, only if they are connected with each other or are part of a public/private network.

    Stop getting so paranoid man, managing everything under 1 roof is actually more productive than scattering around with different data for every website. However, I agree that you should move away from Hostgator as soon as you can and shared hosting as well for that matter. Get a dedicated server and for around $50-100, you will have everything running smoothly and faster than ever.
     
  9. Xlr8

    Xlr8 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP

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    Thanks. I like the idea of moving to a dedicated server and putting them up on different ips. Which WHM are you using and how much does this entire setup cost you per month or per site?

    I've just started building my very own PBN and since I want to cut down on the costs I will be adding multiple money sites on the same PBN(upto 5 sites/blog). I can't afford to build a separate PBN for each site right now and hence I plan on making sure that all sites look like standalones with no connections to each other.

    Managing all sites on the same server,same registrar is much less hassle I know. Are you using a seperate PBN for all sites? I'd like to know.
     
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    I'm not necessarily using a separate network for each money site, however, I make sure that all the money sites that are connected to 1 network are in the same niche, which is also the niche of every site in the network. This has multiple benefits: first of all, in the case of a manual review, it looks much more legit for a website to link out to other different websites in the niche, especially sites that are ranking well in the first page (and you should rank well if you use a PBN) - that is what most writers/webmasters do when they research a topic and write the article.

    Second of all, the links coming from such sites in the network are stronger than links coming from sites that link out to every other site out there in multiple niches. The reason is very simple: relevancy! Contextual highly-relevant links are the best you can build and the fact that the entire site is relevant to your money site provides a big boost, especially if you do interlinking (within one site itself NOT between all the sites in the network) and on-site SEO on the network sites the same way you do on the money sites.

    By building your network sites this way, you will require less links to rank than if you built links from "multiple niche" sites, which translates in less money spent on the network (less websites to buy/build), less maintenance, etc.... I have tried & tested what I claimed above on my own sites for the past couple years, so I'm not talking BS out of my own ass.

    Now, of course if you have sites scattered across a variety of different niches, things are a bit more complicated. You have 2 choices: either expand to building more websites in the same niche (different sub-niches or topics, different keywords, etc...) or build news-style PBN sites to link out to different money sites in different niches. The 2nd option is what most people do, but as I mentioned above, you will need more links unless your expired domains are really powerful.

    The only exception to the above is client sites. I never fuck with client sites, even if 2 clients have sites on the same niche. I only have few clients, because I do SEO mostly for my own websites and projects, but the payout that you get from each client is way more than the risk you take by connecting your clients' sites with one another. If a client is paying you $1k+/month to handle SEO on his website, you can sure afford to build a custom PBN for him only.

    So, to recap, what I personally do is: 1 PBN for many sites in the same niche for my own websites/projects and 1 PBN for 1 client in case you are taking client work.
     
  11. Xlr8

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    Makes sense. I was planning to do the same. Only niche relevant contextual PBN backlinks.
    I've seen people recommending 8-10 sites per PBN while some say no more than 1 site per PBN. How many do you put per PBN?
     
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    Random number of sites and also depends how much I grow the PBN site, I don't have a specific number, but not more than 10 for sure (mostly less than that).