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How to prevent expired domains from dropping PR?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by twilightofidols, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    I've purchased a few expired domains with PR for backlinking, and I'm wondering if you guys have any good tips to help prevent them from dropping their PR in the next update?

    I've mirrored there sites in case I want to recreate them, but I ended up doing a fresh install of WordPress on each one and each has a few articles worth of content so far.

    Should I actively backlink these sites? Does link quality matter for simply maintaining PR, or can building low quality links actually hurt my PR?

    Also what do you think is better for passing link juice home page link (only homepage not site-wide) or contextual links in a sticky post?
     
  2. ibmethatswhoib

    ibmethatswhoib Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I have bought about 10 expired domains and some keep juice and some don't. I have had some that get PR 3 or 4 back and some that don't at all. Some I bought can't even get indexed again after all I try. I would say just go to http://archive.org/web/web.php and add some of their old text if you can find it, or add your own. Also add http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/link-juice-keeper/ if you use wordpress. Either way I would say it's a gamble, some keep juice and are quality and some are spammed and never get their worth.
     
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  3. williamk

    williamk BANNED BANNED

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    This is a gamble as ibemethatswhoib says. If you want to get PR domains then just buy when they are valid.
     
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  4. kappa84

    kappa84 Power Member

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    If you buy domains with LEGIT/authority backlinks PR will not drop.
     
  5. fctwente

    fctwente Newbie

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    Stay in the same Topic in which the Expired Domain was Projected in the first place.

    Look at the rankings in the Past

    Redirect Post to the New Post, for others use the link stated above

    Take a Premium Template and Translate the Template in the Language the Expired Domain was in

    Remain Calm & Good Luck
     
  6. dbyrn

    dbyrn Power Member

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    You should:

    1. Post some content QUICK! It's not necessary to rebuild the old content (and copyright issues may come to play!)
    2. Redirect all links with missing target urls to your main page (or another pages). Just don't let them point to 404.
    3. Have a bit of luck ;).

    Take care,
    D
     
  7. jkwilson78

    jkwilson78 Regular Member Premium Member

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    I'll throw in a few more things:

    1) checkout how many times a domains has dropped through DomainTools.com. I came a across a domain that had been dropped 8 times in it's past! That domain more than likely has issues!
    2) investigate the backlink profile. Use something like linkdetective.com to quickly analyze the kinds of links. An over abundance of junk links (forum spam, comments, etc) while not always a deal breaker could be an issue.
    3) Look for over optimized anchor text not related to the niche the domain was originally in. Like if a domain was about cats, and it has Viagra, make money, etc related anchor text, chances are it's been burned before.
     
  8. infoasian

    infoasian Supreme Member

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    It's a gamble. Largely, it depends on previous owner and if he had claimed the domain with webmaster tools. If yes, chances are a high PR will go to zero.
     
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    davie9x Regular Member

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    +1 for this. Great plugin, this will help all the broken links redirect to the homepage. :)
     
  10. netmoney1

    netmoney1 Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    +1 - if the site got its PR from high authority backlinks over time and everything was legit then the PR should remain over time.
     
  11. softi

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    My 2c worth. I have bought about 40 domains so far, all had PR to start with although some was expired. Some were not expired and had PR when I bought them (sites were hosted, but without content). I was very meticulous about checking the links back, looking to see 'funny' links, in other words, if there were links with pharma content to a financial site, also checked to see if links look 'sticky' in other words, had been around for a long time and seems to have been 'forgotten' about. Also, if buying a PR 2 or 3, that at least a few higher PR domains link to the site.
    Out of the 40:
    6 dropped to PR 0
    11 dropped to PR n/a
    The rest mostly dropped 1 PR and 2 went up 1 PR. SOME (very few) retained their original PR.

    So if you do this, always try and get a higher PR than your really wanted since it seems to drop at least 1 PR easily
    Expect to see about half lose PR to be n/a (and I can't figure out why - some had immediate content loaded, some original content, some different content). It looks very random to me - would like to get some idea of a pattern here. SOME of these sites were on hosting that prevented google from indexing the site, but that doesn't seem to be the root cause since I moved them, it is indexing them but the PRs are still n/a.

    Edit: Also, the original link juice keeper plugin is not maintained any more. This one also works fine:404-redirection plugin
     
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