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How To Not Get Into Legal Trouble - Facebook Nightmares..A request on How To Hide YourA$$

Discussion in 'FaceBook' started by mylander, Apr 10, 2010.

  1. mylander

    mylander Newbie

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    So, basically, what are your techniques for hiding your a$$ on facebook.

    I have recently been coming across some threads about some spammers getting cease and desist letters from facebook or being sued big time.

    I realize that some of these spammers are in a different league than what most of the stuff we do. (as for as actions capable of being legally pursued) like collecting account data...

    So, say we get some powerful software tool like face wizard and want to start facebook marketing.

    Private Proxies, Offshore Hosting, Offshore Domains, etc...

    My question really is....Is creating fan pages and then using them to market cpa offers worthy of being sued big time.Of course you wouldn't be just straight up spamming the fan pages. They would be somewhat legit. Like...provide some value to your fans and throw in a cpa offer every fortnight.(that kind of spamming)

    Can facebook actually pursue you for this? Just a cpa survey spam link on a fan page? OR do they just delete your page and you start over. No problem.

    If so, say you take all the precautions, private everything, fake name data on domains and hosting,...Is there a way for facebook to contact your cpa network and get what they want. I'm guessing they probably could,

    So, is there a way to create a domain redirect when doing the cpa promotion in a way that hides the referral completely. As in there would be no possible way anyone could tell who the affiliate or publisher was or his identification?

    I'm starting to wonder if all these complaints about facebook warnings are contrived in a scheme to deter future spammers. I don't know of very many places that talk of Fan Page marketing other than this forum in this detail. I realize that some people get deleted right away because their pages are obviously revolvin cpa offers from the get go. But, it seems to me that the real way to make FB Fan pages is work is to have a couple or many seed fan pages that are totally whitehat(no marketing whatsoever) with lots of fans.

    Then you basically create a crummy fan page for cpa purposes and send all your seed fans or friends to join and they take the cpa offer. Then, you will probably have that page deleted, but hopefully you were using seperate ip's and then your whitehat seeds wouldn't get banned.

    Sorry about any babbling. I just don't want to get into any legal issues, as I'm sure none of you do either. So, please share the best ways not to get caught or atleast keep your quality feeder pages or friends from being deleted.

    BTW, for offshore hosts and domains, those companies don't care if you're using fake information right? Basically, get a prepaid card and that's it.
    What are the best offshore companies or any you have experience with.

    Thanks in advance for any responses. This place rocks.
     
  2. bbrez1

    bbrez1 Power Member

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    What scarlet said. This is not illegal. They will just ban you account and thats it. Right?
     
  3. freedomwriter454

    freedomwriter454 Regular Member

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    There is nothing wrong with making fan pages and building up a huge fan base..its what big companies like Apple and Nokia do, along with many other people to drive traffic to a certain website! I think though that posting CPA offers on the page is against their TOS and will get your account banned! As for fake accounts, the same, unless you spam..they are very strict with spamming on FB and if you hit their radar with spamming they will ban your account and if serious, take it to a legal stage..letters etc!

    Keep it low keep at the start and build up, dont go adding thousands of friends everyday..dont post too much on walls etc etc etc, its really common sense with it! But of course there are always people who don't listen! ;)
     
  4. Grizzy

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    I am not a lawyer, but I believe that FB can sue you for virtually anything they want if they think it's worth it. If they can prove in court that you damaged their business in some way or cost them a lot of money, they will win. Keep in mind that FB is a corporate machine, and it has a big international law firm behind it that can be used to smash any spammer. Who knows, maybe they will just pick someone at random to make an example out of...

    There is virtually no way to stop them from coming for you once they make up their mind. Proxies and offshore be dammed. Unless you have a way to remain 100% anonymous with your advertiser/network (impossible really), there will always be a way to follow the money and track you down (which they will do if they are out for blood).

    With that being said, I can't imagine a FB fan page would be worth a lawsuit. Unless you are phishing accounts, spreading malware, or causing some serious havoc in some way, it is easy for FB to clean up your mess.

    You won't get sued if you don't fuck companies like YT, FB and MySpace to the point where they think that your actions have caused them to lose loads of money. Stay under the radar, spread your spam out (example: instead of making $100k off of one site, make $10k off ten), don't do anything that will get noticed by accountants or by the brass at the top, and you should be fine.
     
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  5. Gradimir Stankovic

    Gradimir Stankovic Power Member

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    No, creating fake profiles, spamming and creating fake groups/pages is illegal.
    You won't get sued if you have your own real profile where you add your real friends.
     
  6. forgetyou

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    I rememebr the first time I got a letter from a bg company lawyer I ran to my pc and deleted everything I could, worried they going to come after me tomorrow. the 2nd time i was afraid too, the third, the fourth and then i realized that they can go and F&*%$ themselves and they dont give a damn about me, just trying to intimidate.
    Those were the days when I DIDNT have proxies and different emails, servers to hide behind.
    Now they can really go and fuck themselves!

    Don't let those big companies intimidate you. the best they can do is shut you down.
     
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  7. freedomwriter454

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    Wow..may I ask what you were doing to get theose letters?
     
  8. gbmack

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    FB will catch you if you are using c-p-@-l3ad.

    I've talked to one of the workers there and he said that fb is reporting specific publishers to their website. I don't know what fb is asking for, to ban the dude's cpa account, or to get information to sue him, but just know that you will never remain anonymous.
     
  9. mylander

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    Huh, so I'm thinking...What if you just send people to your website with an optin form?
    I would think that's fine...Then go for the cpa stuff through email. I would think you could create a pretty huge email list pretty fast through fan pages.

    They're just freaking out because they want us to use their ppc. So, maybe if you send a little ppc to your fanpage they will like you a little more and not delete your account?

    Anyway, thanks for the insights everyone.
     
  10. portalweb

    portalweb Supreme Member Premium Member

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    Here's the recent comment posted by FB:
    The best way to get around the problem is to use your real profile, along with your real Facebook apps/fan page, along with the real (and gracious) CPA offer.

    I can see that Facebook is becoming too much similar to Google, as they have the army of engineers to hunt down these offensive FB fan/page/group sites.
     
  11. HostingInsider

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    Anyone can sue you for anything basically. This doesn't mean they will win. They may just want to send a clear message that this type of activity won't be tolerated. They can sue you for spam, fraud, etc... Doesn't mean they are correct, or have any chance to win. Most likely they will just delete your account, as they have better things to worry about. Yet, if you are a major thorn in their side, you may piss them off. Then they will come after you.
     
  12. Sprouts

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    If you need help with not being traced then PM me. Got a sneaky tactic :p
     
  13. Grandslam

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    Wrong. When you create an account, you're agreeing to their TOS which means you've taken part in a legal agreement. Legal document participation = possibility of a lawsuit.

    Come on guys...
     
  14. moneyrocks

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    guys be careful not sacred we are going to work on facebook because it is a gold mine we all know... rest most of these letters are for threat then any real action...
     
  15. ralphhow

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    This is a great thread. I am a newbie that is focusing on using ********** to post status updates to profiles that I build. I am taking a slow and long term approach. By this I mean that I am slowly building profiles and slowly adding fans of a competitors fan page. I then post numerous status updates (i.e. "having a nice day, great weather, etc..."). Every once in a while I post a status for the profiles that they have found a great "new" player in the vertical I am targeting. My goal is to have a thousand profiles with relatively low friends (this will hopefully grow over time). But, I have just begun this project.

    I set ********** to load 5-10 friends per day. If I get a "warning" via **********, I immediately take the profile out of rotation for a day. Again, I am going slow.

    This is my approach. I welcome any suggestions/modifications. I am a newbie and this site is so helpful.

    Thanks.
     
  16. thestrangefruit

    thestrangefruit Regular Member

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    Yea you all can just ignore the previous lawsuits against spammers. . .

    Really, do you guys just close your eyes and pretend nothing happens? You can take the measures, but there are always tracks that will eventually point back to you.

    Thestrangefruit
     
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  17. MichaelCooji

    MichaelCooji Newbie

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    I just received a cease and desist letter today, They said to forfeit all the money earned as well as have a list of everything i made and cease everything im doing or face legal action.

    Supposedly, this has been sent to thousands of others.

    Also, Facebook has a list of 10,000s of names and computers, addresses and info of all the spammers, as well as an exact amount you've made with your cpa network.

    Ive ceased all of my pages and groups last month and got this today.


    What the hell should I do!?
     
  18. Website

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    This is not the place to ask for legal advice as facebook is probably reading these posts. It is best to consult a legal expert in a confidential setting.
     
  19. rawaccess

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    Can you describe what you were doing on FB to warrant legal action? Where did you get the info about FB having 10k names?

    Sounds like they are a bit slow at sending out C&D's...
     
  20. J0kerz

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    WHat about using Proxies?