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How to make profit with Media Buying

Discussion in 'Media Buying' started by massimo12, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. massimo12

    massimo12 Newbie

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    Hello bhw family

    sorry for my bad english i would ask where i am making wrong i am trying to make any profit with ads wich i am tested many ads company but all time i lost money
    i am tested
    exoclick = 400 $ with cpa not succes
    facebook ads = 300$ shopify + 300$ cpa not succes
    juicyads = 300 $ with adult cpa not success
    pop ads = 200$ cpa not succes
    google adwords = 300$ cpa + 400$ shopify not succes
    propelleads = 200$ cpa not succes
    i am all time losting my money and nothing earned i dont know where i am make wrong is there any expert for media buying wich can give me any tips ?

    thanks lot
     
  2. davidblant

    davidblant Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I will recommend to find a job as junior media buyer at a good company to learn the business.
    The IM is huge you have a lot to learn so the best way is working at a place that already know how to make money and get your basic from there.
     
  3. Billy Batts

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    This is a typical noob mistake.

    You are doing way too many different things.

    The thing is, 9 out of 10 times you will spend $200/$300/$400 just in collecting data only and you start out with a negative ROI. From there you start split-testing and turning your campaign in something successful. Do you even have a descent tracker.

    But you spend money on 6 different platforms just enough to collect data, you were setting yourself up for failure bro.

    Stick with one, become a boss at it, once you got that game down move to the next one.
     
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  4. massimo12

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    i think i cant go any junioor media buyer work because my english is not so good. but thanks for reply :)

    yes you say right i am tried many campaing on many platforms just to hit any profit but its all time unsucces example spending 30$ on 1 campaign and earning 0$ and i am dispiritedness because of that i am stopping actuall campaing and starting another one because of that i am losing i know i need to collect data of 1 campaing only but i am thinking when i spend 500$ on 1 campaing and collecting the data and after that scaling up and still nothing i will lost 500$ only on 1 campaing :/
     
  5. Billy Batts

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    Read my reply again ;) And again, do you use a tracker?

    And pretty much most of the time you don't scale directly after spending $500. You assess the situation and start split-testing.

    So let's say I got one CPA product, depending on what I am doing, PPC, FB, Pops or whatever. 1 campain I would make 4 different ads, landing pages etc. Analyze the data.

    So lets to keep it simple,

    Landing page A has a blue layout and no banner
    Landing page B has a blue layout and a banner
    Landing page C has a red layout and no banner
    Landing page D has a red layout and a banner

    So after spending a couple hundred dollars while rotating the results are (in terms of leads)
    A 33%
    B 7%
    C 40%
    D 20%

    So now you can cut out landing page B.

    A and C are best but you can still take D with you to see what happens.

    So you adjust all of them a bit and see what happens, after those result you analyze the data again and you continue this process till you get it right and then you can turn a negative campaign into a positive again.

    Same tactic goes with PPC ads. Make a couple with different titles and texts, split-test them, analyze the data, tweak it rinse and repeat.
     
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  6. massimo12

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    ok thanks you so much for tips
    can you recommend me any wich ad platform take for cpa affiliate products, and wich tracker and landingpage creator do you recommend ? thanks again for tips
     
  7. Billy Batts

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    So I am going to assume even though you didn't answered after 2 times you did not use a tracker?
     
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    with exoclick before months wich i am tested cpa i used tracker but after that no i am not used tracker for another platform :) i know is a big mistake
     
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  10. Billy Batts

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    Yeah bro, there is no way in hell you will be successful with serious CPA without a tracker. So a couple newbie mistakes. Don't see the wasted $2500 as a complete loss rather than a expensive lesson ;)

    But yeah you will need a tracker, there are many. The one that is most used I guess is Voluum and most beginners start with clickmagick because it's cheaper. @mobidea team has their build-in tracker but I haven't tried it yet.

    Now don't spend on campaign again before you know how to setup a tracker. Youtube has plenty of videos about it and once you know it it's not hard but when you start with it it's confusing AF.
     
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    Tell me:

    1) What verticals you've run
    2) How many landing pages you've tested
    3) Which geos you are running campaigns in
    4) What devices you are targeting (mobile/tablet/desktop)
    5) Which affiliate networks you're working with
    6) What types of offers (PIN/email submits etc.)
    7) Which tracker are you using
    8) How are you optimising your campaigns
    9) What types of traffic (pop/interstitial/banner etc.)

    I should be able to give you some advise if you can provide the above.
     
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    @Billy_Batts I am also new into CPA.
    Apart from a tracker, which affilliate network do you recommend to start with?
    Also which kind of offers or niches would you say we start with?
     
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    A tracker is an absolute must. Without one you may as well flush your money down the toilet.
     
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    Can't really say which niches/offers you should start with because what works for me might not work for you and vice versa. You will have to experiment with it as simple as that ;) most likely you will fail in the beginning anyways.

    Network is about the same but I would try to get into Maxbounty if you want to be serious.
     
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    Is very difficult joining MaxBounty without previous experience, right?
    Anyway, any links or documentation you recommend reading?
     
  17. Billy Batts

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    Depends on you. I got accepted with zero experience. All they ask is how you are planning to promote their offers.

    All you need to know is some internet lingo so you will say something like in your own words "depending on the offer I will promote the offer through, PPC, social media etc
     
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    Find a job :)
     
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    because your just advertising.. you do not know how to advertise propely , with keyword marketing.
     
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    It comes with experience. You need to put money in various sources and try different verticals, offers, landing pages and find the working one. Then scale it up in large scale and reap the rewards. One of the mistakes noobs do is direct linking. Always try different landing pages and track the traffic using any industry standard setup. Analyze the traffic and weed out the bad ones. my 2c