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How to judge if I can rank #1?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mistablackhat00, May 6, 2013.

  1. mistablackhat00

    mistablackhat00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi, I want to start off by saying I tried my best to search for an answer for this question, although it's a silly question to begin with.

    I have been brainstorming ideas for an offline niche that I want to go after and try to rank #1 for, however, I have ZERO SEO skills/experience. I have used Scrapebox before actually, but that is it.

    That being said, I have no way of knowing if what I am looking at is something I could easily take the #1 spot for after a few weeks or not.

    I have used the Google keyword tool and it says low competition, other than that, what should I look for to see if I can do it?

    I wouldn't mind telling one person what the niche is, if needed.
     
  2. mak3r

    mak3r Senior Member

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    Google keyword tool doesn't show serp competition.
    Most of the time several weeks is NOT enough to rank top1 for keys with some competition (for new sites)
    You need a longterm goal, seo works great longterm, if u have 0 experience and want super fast results seo is not the best way.
     
  3. gamingmaster42

    gamingmaster42 Regular Member

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    Well actually this means low advertiser competition, i.e. low number of advertisers bidding on that keyword, not necessarily first-page competition. There was a really good thread somewhere here on BHW teaching you how to do keyword research...
     
  4. thesadshow

    thesadshow Registered Member

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    I'm far from an expert myself, but I can tell you that the "low" competition on the keyword tool only indicates the competition on adwords, not the organic results.

    I usually just search the term and scroll through the first 4 or 5 pages and see how many closely relevant sites there are already ranking for that term. If it isn't stacked with pages and pages of closely relevant results I check how powerful the sites in the first 5 spots are. Some people say I do that backwards but it works for me.
     
  5. Goal Line Technology

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    Try Traffic Travis
     
  6. mistablackhat00

    mistablackhat00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I am aware that keyword tool does not judge SEO competition but I was under the impression that it was comparable for SEO competition.

    And I am not trying to make some quick cash, I am just trying to see if I can invest a small amount of money (less than $50) and also do manual work on it where applicable, and it be possible that it will make it there. I just don't want to get into it if it's going to take a long time and a lot of work.
     
  7. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    You will never achieve stable rankings in any competitive keyword if you somehow possibly manage to rank within a few weeks.

    The only keywords you could possibly rank that quick are ones that aren't worth much at all.

    There is really no formula. I look at niches that other guys won't even touch, and say YEP I can be #1 for that. It might take me a year, but I'll do it anyway. I purposefully go for the harder keywords I don't mess around with kids play keywords that are going to make me $50 here and there.

    Use your GUT your intuition and a bit of sense. Look at who you are competing with, what skills you have, and whether or not you believe you can do it better.
     
  8. mistablackhat00

    mistablackhat00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I know what you are saying. This is for a local niche site though, and I believe it is something that I have throught of that is unique that these sites that are ranking have not worked for. But that is why I asked the question, to see if there was a good way to judge whether it is something that can easily be ranked above. It's not going to be something that doesn't make much money, I'll be renting out the site for a few hundred dollars a month.
     
  9. omnipotent$

    omnipotent$ Regular Member

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    After a while you'll start to develop an instinct about whether or not you can rank easily for certain terms. The simple way to find out is how active the top positions are when it comes to building links and also if there are big brands hogging up the results.

    Chances are, if you see affiliate sites and web 2.0 properties on the first page, it's going to be quite easy provided you have the link database to push your site to the top.
     
  10. ilovestocks

    ilovestocks Junior Member

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    There is a fantastic way to do keyword research that someone on here posted a while back. I can't link you right now but type this in the advanced search and search by title only. "Keyword Research my dear noobs you are doing it wrong". You will find it by using that phrase, I've looked it up many times that way.
     
  11. SEO_Alchemy

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    It's really simple. You look at the top ranking sites for any particular keyword, you analyze their backlinks, age, authority, etc... any number of tools with do this Majestic SEO, Market Samurai, Traffic Travis etc. To out rank them you need more and better links, and comparable content. It really is that simple. I don't know why people have a hard time understanding this. If the top ranking site have a bunch of high authority high PR homepage links from some serious sites... you will need to get some also, and probably more than they have. If the top ranking sites are all old domains with huge authority, you might want to go somewhere else, but if you mean business you'll have to either directly buy a domain in that niche, or redirect old domain in that niche to your site. It's all about seeing where you can rank. You don't get to outrank old authority high backlink sites with a brand new domain and some bookmarks and comments. Invest in the tools necessary to analyze your competion on a by keyword base, and you'll be miles ahead of most people trying their hands at this.
     
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