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How to harm "Spamming" Competitors?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by David_C, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. David_C

    David_C Newbie

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    Hello,

    i am running an editorial website with 5 subeditors for years now. But during the past months, i recognized a lot of "competitors" in the same field, who spam the SERPS with really bad content - and so our website visitors went down for like 50%.

    Regarding the other competing websites, its not spam in the way of duplicated content, cloaking a.s.o. it ist more in a way of using wordpress or blogger to publish a dozen of short posts a day with bad written content and sentences without real meaning or value.

    The problem is that those sites rank pretty well in Google and despite the fact they are pretty "new" (aged only a couple of months, PR 0 or n/a), some of them went into Google News.

    You could now say - wait, they willl go in the sandbox anyway - but as far as we obseved this phenomen for about a half year, most of them didn`t and probably wont go into the Sandbox or get penalized by Google.

    Therfore, I would like to ask you how it is possible to harm those kind of new sites in the meaning of decreasing their traffic, e.g. thinking about submitting their sites to RSS-reader directories or meta-sites like Wikio (which duplicates their content and they get penaliezed sometimes, we saw that one), fill in a google spam report or try to inform Google News about the quality of these content a.s.o.

    So if somebody could give advise in this case, i would be very glad to hear. Any tip is appreciated.

    David
     
  2. Jagged55

    Jagged55 Power Member

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    A lot of us here are creating those sites you hate and I don't think there is too much that you can do to stop it. All I can suggest is that you put some more effort into getting your site a higher ranking because there is always going to be an endless stream of people doing this.
     
  3. Yukinari84

    Yukinari84 Elite Member

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    If you have no idea how these sites are getting ranked and beating you out, then you won't be able to knock them down.

    You are dealing with guys that use the SERPs to make their money.

    You would be much better off trying to learn how to step up your own game and add more value to your own sites.
     
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    Kosher1 Power Member

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    :) love this thread...... my friend, you are on BHW not on BEGOODTODAY .com :)
     
  5. willco

    willco Newbie

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    EXACTLY! I think you are going to have a difficult time putting together a "white hat come to Jesus meeting" here, but good luck with that.:)
     
  6. David_C

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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/4418-yukinari84.html

    Thanks for your concerns. As i wrote above, i actually do know how these sites are getting ranked and beating me out:

    I guess that most of us know that blogging with a high frequence of posts steps you up high in the serps.

    Regarding the "White Hat" issue: I woulnd`t say that I am white hat and just asking how to beat the bad bad guys who know their business, its more like beeing "grey hat" (wow) and want to get rid of competitors.

    Or just see it that way: As a BH, you just made a great effort in the serps for a nice keyword - and now another BH steps in and takes your place. What you gonna do? Of course you could move on to the next project or keyword or whatever, but in case you put a lot effort in this one you might want to get your position back.

    I dont think that this is the first time question someone wants to "bowl" another sites out, so if somebody has ideas or experiences like link bombs or whatever, real advice is appreciated.

    David
     
  7. gb1000

    gb1000 Registered Member

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    Its dog eat dog out there pal
     
  8. kyaw2x

    kyaw2x Regular Member

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    Report them to google. Make an ORM againts your competitor.
     
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    peter2002 Senior Member

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    Don't waste your energy trying to find "creative" ways to get rid of your competitors, but try to find ways to improve your own sites. For instance, why don't you use wordpress and blogger for your sites the same way your competitors are using them for theirs?
     
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    Follow the advice and work on your own sites. If you ran a site for years and someone was able to come in and steal 50% of your market share, they know what they are doing. And if they are making money from it, they are going to keep coming back over and over again. This is nothing against you, they just know what they are doing. If you learn what to do, your 5 year old site should have no problem dominating the keywords they took over. Good luck.
     
  11. blade

    blade Regular Member

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    LOL David the first thing i was thinking after reading your post is how can I do what your competitors do to you.
     
  12. Burn Notice

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    Really bad content says who? You?
     
  13. weareza

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    let us know your niche we may be able to check for more info
     
  14. llael

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    If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

    Otherwise, Weareza can help you. . . :rolleyes:
     
  15. Yukinari84

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    If you do know how they are ranking then you should be able to beat them out.

    If it's their "spammy" blogs that are ranking due to the frequency of content, then you need to up your content production. Google loves fresh content and will camp out on a site it know is pushing out relevant content constantly.

    What's their backlinking strategy like? You can beat them out there, too.

    Don't waste your time trying to harm your competitors. It's very "hit or miss". You could actually end helping them out in the end.

    Find their weak spot, and make that your strength.