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How to get past the anti bot bans of 2019...

Discussion in 'Instagram' started by social engineer, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:54 PM.

  1. social engineer

    social engineer Regular Member

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    Right, I'm gonna try and bang this own before my lunch is ready (so in under 30 minutes).

    Everyone is in a state right now that Instagram is banning bots and automation efficiently. Most of you should have seen this coming but hey this is BHW... the quality of members has slipped significantly.

    INSTAGRAM IS DETECTING BOTS VIA BEHAVIOURAL FINGERPRINTING!

    That's the long and short of it. Legitimate humans don't spend all day following and unfollowing! they ponder they do things. They look at an Instagram post then click on the user and look through a large number of the other user's posts. They comment on their friend's posts (you look beautiful in this post babe, that was such a fun day!). Hell, my girlfriend likes every single post!!! when I asked her why apparently it's so that she knows which posts shes seen before (I've given up trying to figure out a woman's mind).

    Instagram is owned by Facebook which means they have creepy amounts of data on you. They know how an average 21-year-old, non-college educated American black woman signs up and interacts with the service. They know how this differs from a white 37-year-old college-educated American man hell they even know how this differs from a 21-year-old, college-educated American black woman does.

    If you want to defeat facebook and Instagram you need to behave and appear like a regular real user even before you sign up. Those facebook like buttons shares and whatever are designed to hoover up information facebook (and in turn Instagram) will and do follow you all over the web.

    They know what type of sites a 21-year-old American woman goes on. (Hint its not cricket scores in Pakistan) this is before you even sign up what IP addresses your using aswell.

    why is a 21-year-old American woman who says shes in Nevada creating an account from a mobile IP in Russia?

    but it gets more insidious than that. What do you do when your out and about? do you stop in coffee shops do you go for fast food and connect to wifi in say a Mc Donalds? Facebook and Instagram will already know what real users behaviour looks like.

    Real users have routines. I connected to 4 -8 different public wifis a day just when I'm out and about. When you're account is created on a mobile and then uses a residential IP from then onwards Facebook and Instagram knows you're unlikely to be real.

    Right lads my lunch is ready and I'm out of time. this subject is vast!
     
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  2. Biswas Marketing

    Biswas Marketing Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    No one wants to accept the fact.

    Ohh... My account got banned..lets bang the bot developer..:anyway:
     
  3. SocialLord

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    Nice post, but I disagree with one point; the following:
    "Real users have routines. I connected to 4 -8 different public wifis a day just when I'm out and about. When you're account is created on a mobile and then uses a residential IP from then onwards Facebook and Instagram knows you're unlikely to be real."

    I ONLY use Facebook at my home. I don't use Facebook on the go when I'm outside. So I only use ONE IP address to use Facebook, at the same times each day. Would this make me a robot? I disagree. There's tons of users who never change patterns... The real difference to me is that no real human would keep doing the same actions in a exact timed pattern like bots do..
     
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  4. ikenna Adigwe

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    yeah but certain things cant make you banned, if you use one ip address they wont ban you. lets say you only go on Instagram at home, its probably a combination of everything you said and they give each person a score or grade if your too high then you'll be banned.
     
  5. SocialLord

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    agreed
     
  6. FUTUR TIM

    FUTUR TIM Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Okay, then how would you explain action blocks, compromised account messages and other errors related to botting? Behavioural fingerprinting? Then why the exact same actions performed manually don't cause the same issues?
     
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  7. DonOfUol

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    not possible. instagram has been strict
     
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    Its is weirdo people using browser to perform bot actions when Instagram is a mobile based software.
     
  9. ManiB

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    I totally agree with this. As even Jarvee has accepted that Instagram is tracking swipes and taps now. These bots run headless and just send commands to follow or like posts. They dont even download these posts as you would realize that running 20 accounts on these bots take up far less bandwidth compared to doing it manually on an android account for even 10 accounts.
    Instagram obviously knows which part of the page you are viewing, hence a video starts only when it is in the centre of the screen. This doesnt happen when you are using a bot. Notice how buying likes dont improve your impressions unless they state about impressions growth too? Thats coz they just send commands to like the posts. Instagram has somehow tracked this, hence efficiently picking out the bots and blocking them.
    I guess these bots need to work like an emulator for an android phone to resolve the issue, though it means starting from scratch.
     
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  10. ManiB

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    Thats coz its working. Most of the bots use the instagram api and show that they are working through android app. but since Instagram is catching them, people are trying the EB and that as far as i have heard is working good.
     
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    Real talk. All we can do here is hope that the new Jarvee update will fix things or switch to manual actions with in-house employees.
     
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    I have already started Doing manual work on Android phone and I am trying to find a good macro clicker to work on Bluestacks. Was happy with Instadub till Instagram started acting tough. Instadub is developing something too i guess as he said in his support forums. Fingers crossed and hope to find way out soon.
     
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    You don't need BlueStacks to run these clickers. Hit me up for the ones I use. Not looking to sell anything, just a free help.
     
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    i mean if a bot dev is selling a bot they know no longer works then they deserve to be banged.
     
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    I gave up on botting. Viral content and shoutouts is the only thing I trust now. Ofc engaging your followers and interacting a bit with the community helps. But you can't have mediocre content and rely on spamming actions.
     
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    Thanks for the offer. Do check your dm
     
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    I didn't saw any:
    "How to get past the anti bot bans of 2019"
    on your post.

    Besides this you are wrong both ways.
    We can still use bots to grow accounts.
    People using their IG accounts as normal manual users are getting action blocks and even getting banned.
    Fb and IG are not as wise as you may think and to some extent, they don't even know what they are they doing.
     
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    Story views seem to still be doing well. Growing slower than before unless watching crazy amounts of stories, but still growing.
     
  19. Martin Cathy

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    In my view, Instagram is much better than Facebook. The accounts stay longer.
     
  20. social engineer

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    Partly down to bot development. Most bot devs are using Instagrams hidden api (Reverse engineered from the mobile app) Unfortunately it's just the API they took not all the data that Facebook collects with the app as well.

    Absolutely its score driven and almost certainly run by ML.

    That's simple Instagram is monitoring how you swipe its actually fairly common and can be a pain to bypass in fact heres a company selling behavioural fingerprinting to identify a user!
    https://fingerprints.digital/how-it-works/

    Yup most bots use the Instagram hidden api which was RE'd from the mobile app.

    Bots run off the Instagram hidden api (from mobile app). These bots just take the restful api they don't both spoofing the other information facebook collects aswell.

    Unlikely they will be able to. To spoof it properly props if they do though. its a lot of work and if you can bypass instagrams anti bot system then why waste your time on instagram there is far more money in facebook why sell some likes on Instagram where you could sway an election on facebook...

    Good luck with that, unless you can randomise the way it clicks I think facebook will be able to detect it fairly easily.

    Gotta keep whipping that cash cow for as long as you can get away with it. ;)

    Yeah didn't get round to finishing it but my lunch was ready... what can I say :).

    Try running bots at scale to grow accounts.

    Manual users are getting action blocks / banned for doing spammy actions not because they are being detected as bots.

    Facebook and Instagram are far wiser than what I've even mentioned (from speaking to facebook devs). For the lefties out there if Google is Donald Trump Facebook is Hitler! (Although some lefties are saying Trump is worse than Hitler now so fuck knows.)

    With Facebook you can topple governments (Arab spring anyone). With Instagram you can promote a pair of trainers??? There is a lot more power money and influence you can use with facebook bots and facebook are well aware of this (Zuck doesn't want a repeat of 2016).
    Honestly, I think Instagram just gets rid of bots to act like they are doing something and to make a nod to there advertisers that they are actually doing something to combat it.