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How to get more CB affiliates for a $21/sale new product

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by virtualcredit, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. virtualcredit

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    Any tips on how i can get some affiliates to promote my new cb product.

    I am new to this vendor system so looking for some affiliates who can promote one of my cb product.

    Any tips and suggestions
     
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    I believe you need to get MOD approval then you can start a thread with details of your clickbank product and offers. But PM me details anyway as i might be interested.
     
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    im interested please message me or skype me my username is tomasobuachalla
    What niche?
     
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    Announcing an affiliate product is explained in this section of the Forum Rules
    So according to that, the proper way to announce an affiliate product if you're an affiliate is to create ONE thread in the Affiliate Programs forum and provide detailed info about the program and include 2 links: one affiliate link and one non-affiliate link.

    If your the vendor then there isn't really a need to provide an affiliate link, so typically what is included in that case is a non-affiliate link to the salespage, and a an example hoplink format showing your vendor name or a link to your affiliate support page if you have one.

    The point of these product announcements is not to sell the product on bhw, but rather let other members know about good products they can promote. So in the detailed description, along with information about the product itself, you should also include info about commission percentage, etc.

    Here's a good example:
    [thread]353422[/thread]
    I don't know if it's a good product or not, but it's the right format for a vendor looking for affiliates.

    Here are a few more examples:
    [thread]356573[/thread]
    [thread]254855[/thread]
    [thread]368848[/thread]
    [thread]360612[/thread]

    Now having said all that, BigBuddy did post a thread
    [thread]353853[/thread]
    explaining that New Affiliate Programs or Affiliate Networks require prior approval from Pofecker or Diamond Damien.

    I'm not sure if that means a product vendor looking for affiliates also need to request approval first. My thought is it doesn't since announcing a CB type product is different than running an affiliate program. I'll ask BigBuddy about it though just to be sure.
     
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  5. blackma

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    Prove that it converts well on untargetted traffic (1%) or even very very well on targeted traffic (10%)
     
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    pm SENT
     
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    I am really thanking you Grewwolf
     
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    How to get the affiliate sign up page for CB users to my product?
     
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    Grewolf you mean can i post my sales page link and other details in here without any affiliate links. Can anyone help me with it i cant post links yet i dont know how much post i needed to be approved ok however someone e help me will u...
     
  11. GreyWolf

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    Make another folder on your website for affiliates and create an index.html file there. example: yoursalespage.com/affiliates

    Include all the benefits of being an affiliate for you're product. Things like same stats as you would find in the CB marketplace. Conversion rates, gravity, low refund rate, etc. (once you have that info). The selling price, affiliate commission percentage, actually dollar amount affiliate will recieve, etc.

    Also include an example for how affiliates need to sign up with clickbank if they aren't already, and an explanation of how to build the hoplink for your product. AFFILIATE.VENDOR.hop.clickbank.net (Actually use your vendor name, and tell them to replace affiliate with their own id).

    Then when you're looking for affiliates, just refer them to that link (yoursalespage.com/affiliates).

    One note about having an affiliate page. A lot of vendors include a link to the affiliate page on their sales page. Doing that is really bad form. It gives visitors sent to the page by your affiliates an opportunity to sign up themselves and bypass the affiliate who sent them to you. Affiliates are the bread and butter of a sales promotion for you're product. Why would you want to screw them over.

    So, if you do set up an affiliate page you should give a link to it in the CB Marketplace, and link to it on any sites where you're trying to recruit for affiliates, but you should NOT include a link to it on your sales page. You're sales page should be 100% targeted for making a sale, not for recruiting affiliates.
     
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    I disagree. It is a very good idea. Just give it a name only IM's would understand e.g. webmasters, affiliates etc.

    Even if the average person would be arsed reading and learning how they could get a discount, they could end up being a good affiliate for you.

    Just don't use anchor text like "Earn MEGA Bucks promoting this product!"
     
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    Thanks greywolf it helped a lot....I will do that....Clickbank said it will take 24Hours to appear in the marketplace but i they said affiliate still can sale it. And one more thing Greywolf can u help me to re post ll those details. I can make a join venture with u....Can u help me to get more affiliates....(Just a suggestion)...
     
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    But my product is already added to paydotcom,amazon (as a physical delivery) , click2sell,

    Clickbank added yesterday before 18 hours ago
     
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    Ok here are the details


    Sales Page: www stepbystepblogging co cc
    Hop link :
    yourID washeen91 hop clickbank net
     
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    If any affiliate need to check this before you promote it plz pm
     
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    Running Affiliate Network or Affiliate Programs (Private offers i.e. email submits, lead generations, dating signups) requires Prior Approval.

    No Prior Approval needed for Clickbank Products. But, still I will get it confirmed from admins and will add it in new affiliate Rule.
     
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    Thats a lot of relief
     
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    OK, read my post again. I explained the reason it's not a good idea is because in doing so you're taking some sales away from the affiliates who send the visitors to your page. That might not seem like a big deal to a vendor because he might get another affiliate from it, but for the affiliate it's a VERY BIG DEAL because he's the one sending the visitor and the only thing he gets out of your recruitment is more competion. As far as the affiliate is concerned, all you should be doing with any prospects they send to your page is converting them to sales.

    If all you're concerned about is your own needs, then it certainly seems like it would be a good idea. You'll certainly get some percentage of visitors to your page that will click that link, and some percentage of those will decide to become affiliates. But you'll also be losing a lot of seasoned professionals that don't want to promote a page that's designed to siphon off some of the visitors he's sending to that page.

    ClickBank even explains the need to cloak hoplinks to prevent losing sales to people changing the hoplinks. They even provide a tool in the Marketplace to create cloaked hoplinks for you. What use is any of that if the vendor is providing the customer instructions to create their own hoplink before making a purchase?

    Which would you rather have promoting your product.
    • A lot of newbies that found your page because they were potential customers and then decided to become affiliate marketers because 'hey that sounds like a neat idea',
    • or would you rather have professional marketers that already know what they're doing, and found your affiliate page because you posted it on marketing forums.

    Just having one experienced marketer can bring in more sales than a hundred 'I think I'll give this a try' affiliates.

    Here's a few things the professional marketers looking before deciding to promote a product.
    • How good is the sales page? Is it likely to convert the visitors they send? How much presell will be needed?
    • Is there anything in the sales funnel that will overwrite their cookie so they'll be cut out of their commission if a sale is made.
    • Are any visitors they send to the page being siphoned off from the sales funnel for other purposes. (recruiting affiliates from the sales page is one example of that).
    • Are there any secondary offers being made before, during, or after the sale? If so will the affiliate get commissions on those sales as well?
    • How aggressively is the vendor promoting his own sales page? Is it worth competing with the vendor for sales?
    If the answer to any of those questions indicate that the vendor will be taking any visitors away from the affiliates commissions, then the best affiliates won't be interested in promoting it. Sometimes a good affiliate will overlook something if they thing everything else is strong enough that they'll still make money, but most of the time they'll move on to promote something else.

    A lot of vendors make the mistake of trying to market their products themselves, in effect competing with their affiliates. Or they resent the commissions they pay out thinking somehow it's a waste to be paying it. If that's they case then why do you even need affiliates, just market the product yourself.

    If a vendor decides to use affiliates to sell their product, then they need to understand what they are actually creating is a sales force. Affiliate Marketers are to IM what Independent Sales Agents are to the Insurance Industry and any other commission based sales force. By having a sales force, the vendor can make so many more sales than they could by just promoting themselves it makes it more than worthwhile to pay out the large commissions.

    Would you rather make 100% of the sale price, or 25% of the sale price? That's how most vendors think about it, and of course the answer is 100%. But the REAL question is actually, 'would you rather make A) 100% on 500 sales, or B) 25% on 50,000 sales?'. In that case the answer becomes B of course.

    Well, if you really would rather have the 50,000 sales then you're complete strategy should be based on having a marketing sales force. Let them do the marketing for you. That frees you up to focus on completing the sale for them (that's the purpose of your sales page) and recruiting more top notch marketers (which shouldn't be done on the sales page).

    It's not a bad idea to try recruiting affiliates from your customers, after all if they bought the product then they'll have more knowledge about the product that can be used in their promotions. But, that should be done AFTER the sale, not during the sales process.

    If you're using affiliates to do your marketing for you then the purpose of a sales page should be focused totally on making the sale.

    So, to sum it up...
    If you're more interested in finding lots of newbie affiliates and don't care how good any of them are then... yeah sure, an affiliate link on your sales page is a good idea.

    On the other hand, if you want to find top notch professional affiliates who know how to set up successful marketing campaigns then... NO, don't include anything that will siphon visitors sent to your sales page away from the purpose of the page.
     
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    Are you SERIOUSLY using .co.cc for your product ?:get_ready