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How to find out the best server that would meet my requirements?

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by casan, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. casan

    casan Newbie

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    Hi everyone,


    This is a doubt I have had for a long time, and have not found a real answer over the internet nor have had a satisfactory answer when contacted my hosting customer service.


    What I want to know:
    How to choose the correct hosting server (not talking about providers but server specs) in order to satisfy my requirements, without wasting resources and money?


    I am currently running a Standard dedicated with hostgator (+200usd), and I pretend to find out whether this server is too sophisticated for my needs.


    Bottom line, this is what I want to open the discussion about:


    How to find out what is the best server solution with the data available. How to use that data to figure it out?


    I know there is data available in WHM such as cpu load, bandwidth, others parameters?
    Also data at Cpanel statistics, such as kilobytes downloaded per website, and others? I also run Statcounter for more data.


    So again, is there a way to use that information, make a logic process and find out what will be an appropriate hosting server?


    thanks for your help
     
  2. papa_ji

    papa_ji Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    can't get you
    what exactly server specs you are looking for
    explian briefly
     
  3. Zapdos

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    You can use that information yes, but it's not exactly straight forward. What happens if theres a spike in users? Maybe alot of people are loading an SQL or CPU intesnive page at one time? What if you add mods which can increase load 10-50%?

    Best bet is to find your average usage, then scale it to +40% (small site) or +20% (large site) which would give you enough room for some growth and spikes.
     
  4. dbyrn

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    First thing: optimization.
    Second thing: migration.
    Analyze your site: maybe you can improve performance at once without investing money in a new server. Then you can run some stress tests to watch how your server works under load. And then you're ready for choosing specs of your new server.

    D.
     
  5. MassiveServers

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    What is your server being used for?
    Shared Hosting? this takes more disk space than ram or processor
    Game server, less disk space and more ram and processor
    These are 2 very vague examples. give us more information on the use for your server and we can be more helpful.
    Servers are not one size fits all.
     
  6. intrepid

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    hostwinds - setting up a redundant multi tiered load balanced system
    hostamus

    No affiliation to either of these. I've just heard about them.
     
  7. MassiveServers

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    Re-Read the OP, he is not trying to find a server, he is attempting to find out if he is paying for resources he is not using.
    Every Dedicated Server provider has a selection of servers from low priced to very high priced, The OP wants to know Which resources he should be putting his money into, not where. otherwise, I would have hinted at one of ours.
    Again, tell us what your server is used for and we will tell you what to spend your money with out wasting it.
     
  8. ThreadKiller

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    Never too long in one place.
    Also, is your server mission critical or is a certain downtime acceptable? You get very different pricing depending on the answer to that question.
     
  9. cmansilla

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    Interesting.
    Well i think that you can virtualize servers, then monitor services (load, stress, any..), may be you can consider buy your own server and virtualize (with this you can have "more"virtualized servers, in one you can have sql and in other web page, .. etc) and monitor, its similar like dbyrn says, for more advices, you have to be more specific.
    C.
     
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    I recommend server4you.com
     
  11. casan

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    Thanks for your help!
    If I didn't provide the actual numbers was because I pretended to do the math on my own and figute it out by my self by just comparing the numbers of whatever you guided me to take as a parameter. However, since it seems to be more clear with the actual data on the table, lets bring them on:


    My dedicated server specs:
    Standard
    Intel Xeon 3360* (Quad Core)
    4 GB DDR3 Memory
    2 X 250 GB Hard Drive
    10 TB Bandwidth
    5 Dedicated IPs
    FREE cPanel


    Today server stats:
    Server load 0.5 (8 CPUs)
    Memory Used 19.55% (808,916 of 4,137,860)
    Swap Used 0.51% (10,664 of 2,096,440)


    I have asked my hostgator to provide CPU usage for the last year, but the response was "This data is stored in /var/log/sa and can be retrieved via the sar command etc etc", just too complicated for me. So anyway I got a capture of yesterday's cpu usage, a normal day:
    cpu-load.jpg


    About bandwith
    May's bandwith usage was 428.36 Gig


    I use this server to host several websites. Some are joomla based, and others are wordpress based. I have installed cache on all sites. All websites are informational sites, they have text and still images. No gaming, streaming, etc etc


    So, supposing the data given correspond to average numbers (and nothing will change in the future), what are the actual numbers I should compare in order to find out whether I am wasting resources or not?
     
  12. casan

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    Hi guys, anyone has any thoughts?
     
  13. Zapdos

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    From that, you can probably downgrade to a VPS safely. Sticking to around ~768mb -> 1g of memory would give enough headroom. Though you will probably want to find out what is causing the CPU usage for top 2 sites and see if you can optimize it.
     
  14. tajmahal

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    my opinion is yo choose small to medium hosting company if you like sys admin to work with you and to be on your side. WHY? becasue usually smaller hosting companies have power to make own working structure. And you can always get manage support for the price of unmanaged. And most of them do not have problems because their sys admins are knowledgeable and can solve problem much faster than big guys.. And they are update in their knowledge and can optimize your server like a baby and can make your sites load faster and secured for sure..
     
  15. ugjunk

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    Firstly it looks like you are over paying for the Dedicated server. You can get much better dedicated server for a lot cheaper price(Contact me if you need one).

    How much is your traffic and what kind of database interactivity is usually going on?

    If you can share a bit more information then I would love to help you out.