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How to end allegations of voter fraud

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Roparadise, Dec 10, 2011.

  1. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    I was reading about the allegations of voter fraud in Russia. Not going into the actual politics about it. But if people really want a fair election,then why not display who each person voted for.

    If people really want elections to be fair,then why aren't they willing for the world to see who they voted for?
     
  2. kokoloko75

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    I heard (could be a rumor) that in some polling stations in Russia, the ballot boxes already contained ballots at the opening of offices...

    I insist, it may be a rumor.

    Beny
     
  3. Roparadise

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    The thing is,how can you actually now if someone legitimately won an election if you don't know if your vote went correctly. And at the same time people want privacy.
     
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    If you don't give people privacy when they vote then they no longer have the right to vote for whom they chose, like with the unions in the United States. Others can watch you vote and if they don't like who you vote for they can harrass you and follow you home and harrass your family. He who hires the most thugs wins.
     
  5. larrydetuvi

    larrydetuvi Regular Member

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    I don't know about the electoral laws in Russia, but in my country for the year 2000 passed something like this. Fujimori (candidate) was re-elected with a little more than 48% according to official results. But in the other hand the Stadistic companies who did polls with people who were leaving the voting centers showed that Toledo (the other candidate) had the 48,5%. Most people cried fraud, in the end we never knew, it could have been anything (error, bad sampling, demographics, fraud). Do you have this kind of polls in Russia?
     
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    In Russia I think that its really a majority victory its just that he isn't as popular anymore. People are always going to be calling voting fraud,if they are on the losing side.
     
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    Allowing people (especially the Government/Security Forces) to see who you are voting for is a BIG mistake. To protect voters it has to be a secret ballot or it wouldn't be free and fair.

    You would open the whole thing up for people to abuse you based on who you vote for and your political views, from local groups and cartels with a vested interest in the local member, to the government who controls the state apparatus and wants to be re-elected.

    A better way is how they have done it in Afghanistan and Iraq in recent times, to mark each person with indellable ink so they can't vote again. There are still big problems with postal votes and voting by proxy though, even in the UK.

    People go to places like nursing homes and get the people to sign over the votes to them promising to vote for who they say, but in reality they work for a party and use all the votes themselves. Happened in Birmingham not long ago.

    Sadly, Electoral Fraud is a big problem, even in the biggest western countries, not just places like Russia and the middle east.

    ~|ChaRoN|~
     
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    I'm going to throw something out here. If we start taking anti-political corruption advice from Russia then we're all fucked.
     
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