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How to DROP a site in the serps fast

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by designsonline, Oct 2, 2010.

  1. designsonline

    designsonline Power Member

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    We have been working for a client for a while and they have acheived good results, but someone has told them that they dont need us anymore now their keywords are all on the first page. They were told that they can stop using us and they will just stay there.

    So to test this theory they have cut a number of keywords from their list that I usually work on for them each month. We dont want to lose this client, so I need to ensure that these keywords drop like a stone within a week or 2. how can I do this?

    (If the keywords dont drop, they will stop all SEO services, because they will assume that the advice they have been given is correct!)

    I know that I could do some work on their competitors for these keywords for a month, but that is a lot of work as I would need to work on around 20 sites for each keyword, I may end up doing this, but I want to know if anyone else knows a better way of doing it?
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    You are the one who is building the backlinks right? Why can't you remove those links? I don't how effective it is!
     
  3. gurkoboy

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    Hey man, sounds like someone screwed you out of a client... I don't think it's possible (or ethical) to try and lower them in the SERPs. The best thing would be to explain to them how SEO is a long term thing and that it's exactly the same kind of thing as the big retailers who split test and redo their sales magazines weekly... It's a long term process that needs attention or they will lose their rankings and all the hard work will be lost.

    I think we both know that isn't completely true but it is to an extent, I really hope you manage to get them back.

    Perhaps you could try building a high PR site(not trying to rank for anything, just a big link juice funnel) that has few OBL's and have your current clients on it with their main keyword as anchor text - if they leave you then remove the backlink and if they're a small company/website it might be enough to scare them. I know that isn't realistic for your current situation but it might be a solution for the future.

    Good luck with the client.
     
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  4. designsonline

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    Gurkoboy: It did make me think that I should have done something like this before, but it is too late now. They are already testing so no matter what I say to them, if the URLs dont drop they will believe the other advice they have been given, and I can kiss the client goodbye.

    Cyberzilla: I have used loads of different outsoucers to do the majority of the work for us, it wouldnt be possible to remove the links. Thanks for the thought though....

    It looks like building links to their competitors seems the way forward so far, any other ideas?
     
  5. Bostoncab

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    Why build links for their competitors? BECOME THE COMPETITOR. I can tell you how to get dirt cheap north American phone numbers in any area code that you can forward anywhere in the world you like.

    Buy a domain turn on the line pump the hell out of the site with the phone number forwarded to one of their competitors and then offer to sell the business to them or a competitor.

    IF you are virtual why be small? Also consider there may be affiliate money here no?
     
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    Bostoncab Elite Member

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    Also to drop them why not make a duplicate content site?

    Google no like the duplicate right?
     
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    lancis Elite Member

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    There is a technique to do that, however why would you want to do such a thing?
    It will hurt you on the long run more than benefit you. Eventually they will discover what has happened and you will loose not only the client but his recommendations also.
     
  8. designsonline

    designsonline Power Member

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    No im not interested in becoming their competitor, I wish them any harm, I simply want the keywords they have dropped, to drop in the SERPS for now....

    The Duplicate content idea is a possibility....
     
  9. designsonline

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    What is the technique?


    How will they discover what happened?
     
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    lancis Elite Member

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    It will be clearly visible on their logs/analytics software.

    Regarding the technique itself I would rather not make it public. PM me your mail, I will send you the idea.
     
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    i thought that's why you are supposed to point backlinks at your site and then 301 them to your clients site so if they drop you you drop them.
     
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    Don't build links to their competitors!!! Ever!!! :cool:

    If the niche is not so competitive, create 3 to 5 new domains, in different IPs, preferably aged, put some related content on them targeting the keywords you want and ScrapeBox it as much as you can creating backlinks to YOUR new domains.

    Your sites will rank, your clients site will drop, they will despair, you keep the links that you can use for that client or their competitors depending on what the ex-client decides. You are not causing definitive harm to anyone, just keeping the power to yourself, after all it was Your work. As your ex-client may return to be your client then you can 301/302 your sites to that returning client.

    The tip from Gurkoboy is also very good, specially if used in par with the above "Perhaps you could try building a high PR site(not trying to rank for anything, just a big link juice funnel) that has few OBL's and have your current clients on it with their main keyword as anchor text - if they leave you then remove the backlink and if they're a small company/website it might be enough to scare them. I know that isn't realistic for your current situation but it might be a solution for the future." It's not about the PR, but the authority.

    HTH
     
  13. GoldAndRiches

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    I know a way. You got PM
     
  14. designsonline

    designsonline Power Member

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    not from you I dont, by the way why the new account?
     
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    Whoops. I am not able to post PM until I got 15 posts. Sorry!

    Why the new account? Because I'm new in the forum :D

    But that does not mean, I am new to SEO or Black Hat SEO ;)

    I am refering to so called "killer links" they do exist and I can give you a hint
    from where to get them..
     
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    GoldAndRiches Newbie

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    Oh by the way: A killer link is a link, that triggers a keyword penalty for its anchor text
     
  17. designsonline

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    so where do we get these "killer" links from then?
     
  18. xbox360gurl70s

    xbox360gurl70s Elite Member

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    My advice personally, let it be, if this clients that makes the world stink and the way the corporate world works.

    Move along to new clients and you will one day sit back and think about this event in your career and say HELL YEAH we kick butt

    Congratulations on a good SEO effort btw
     
  19. Meraman

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    That is what we almost always should do, as we all, no exceptions, lose clients some time.

    However, some times a client or two abuse our efforts and good will so that an approach like the OP is probably talking about is well justified.

    It's not about the money lost, but to using anger in a productive way.
     
  20. jeffern

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    Personally, I would probably fire the client. I would bet that they are a pain in the ass in many other ways.

    Trying to get them to drop and then being responsible for getting them back into position is a nightmare, guaranteed.

    Much better bet is just building some links to a couple of their competitors. The key here is being able to control how far your client "drops" (because competitors advancing past you looks exactly like dropping). Anyway, build links to the three sites ranked below them, and they will "drop" three spots. Assuming you don't own Scrapebox, I would use something like "Drip Feed Blasts." For $50, (and maybe 30 minutes of work) you can build about 15,000 forum profile backlinks over the course of a month. Then, when you want to get your site back into position, just do the same thing but a bit more for it.

    Ultimately, though, you are going to be better off finding clients who appreciate your work.
     
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