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How to deal with this DP scammer?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by super11, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. super11

    super11 Senior Member

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    Hey,

    Recently, I purchased a website on DP. The guy faked the paypal screenshot and sold a website that earns nothing for $500. Plus I purchased a software worth $130 because the website was a article directory that uses the software for submission plus blog commenting services, hosting expenses, bought signature links and lost time, efforts etc. Not to forget the emotional trauma associated with a scam deal. I promoted the website for nearly 3 weeks spending several hours but I have not earned more than 2 dollars through any of the revenue sources. Now the guy is not replying to my email either. He was active, but choose to ignore my first email. Sent him a second email but he hasn't replied as yet. The thing is he has over 1000 post, positive feedbacks and stuff like that. So, I wasn't expecting this at all. His records were good until this deal.

    I have told him clearly that I will defame him on DP, WF and other forums. But, honestly, that's not me. I never try to get even with my enemies. It only hurts me all the more. But, at the same time I don't want him to scam others. However, I don't like the idea of getting even with enemies. How to deal with this?

    Secondly, I have asked him to refund $500 which was purely paid for the website. I told him that I was willing to bear the other expenses. Now, since he isn't replying, how do I go about claiming a refund. I transfered the amount as "goods". I need guidance on how to have a favorable deal. Should I tell paypal that it was a website purchase or mention it was some sort of goods. How long does paypal take these days for refund.

    Thanks in advance for the guidance on this matter.
     
  2. proxygo

    proxygo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    file a charge back with your bank
     
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  3. Freestar100

    Freestar100 Registered Member

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    Tell the DP community on your experience so that others would be forewarned...
     
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  4. super11

    super11 Senior Member

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    Thanks guys..

    He did reply to my second email. He states that I am supposed to market the website to earn money. I have replied stating that he represented information. Why would I pay $500 and spend additional money on a website that earns just nothing.
    I have also included additional info in my reply which proves him wrong. Although he is online, he has not replied to this email.

    Guys, any info on Paypal refund. Part of the money was drawn from my credit card and part of the money was drawn from my paypal balance. Should I do I chargeback from both Paypal and credit or just through Paypal
     
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  5. dgruergerugerhiye

    dgruergerugerhiye BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Log into paypal and file a chargeback.
    Call your credit card company and do the same.
     
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  6. Scripteen

    Scripteen Elite Member

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    Do chargeback with paypal since you selected "goods" so paypal will be in your favor. Just mention you paid for any physical goods (like a laptop or something) and you never got the tracking number of the shipment from the seller.
     
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  7. zalpriest

    zalpriest Regular Member

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    Rule #1 for the internet:

    Never believe screenshots.
     
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  8. ScrapeBoss

    ScrapeBoss Elite Member Premium Member

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    Sorry about this. A chargeback is the best solution here.

    The type of money nobody can spend is the one that ends with .jpg
     
  9. lacy1978

    lacy1978 Junior Member

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    +1 on the chargeback, but definitely don't lie to paypal about the item you purchased. Then you wouldn't be any better than the guy that screwed you. The nice thing (in this instance) about Paypal is that unless the seller can prove he sent you something, they will side with you.
     
  10. Monrox

    Monrox Power Member

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    Bad advice. The chance of a successful digital stuff dispute is very slim. Stick to the real goods theory. Try PP first, don't file the chargeback on your CC yet (but be aware of the filing deadline). A bank chargeback will alienate PP.
     
  11. Scripteen

    Scripteen Elite Member

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    The dispute will be closed before it starts in such case. Once you select digital item you get the dispute closed without refund and a notice that they won't stand by you for digital goods.

    It's not like he is lying to scam someone. he is lying to get his own money back as it seems to be the only possible way to get the funds.

    The risks are just the other guy will just ship a random CD with any courier and provide tracking number and wins the dispute but it's like 90% that he won't do it due to lack of information about such matter...
     
  12. Abstroose

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    If it was me, I'd geolocate him through domain logs and send real expensive pizzas to his house.

    That's just me.
     
  13. extremephp

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    If it was me in your shoes, I would just File a chargeback from the Bank and later try about a dispute in Paypal.

    Paypal really doest like people who Dispute in Paypal, and if they fail by chance, files a Chargeback from the bank. Paypal will talk against them in that case. I have experienced that ;). I did win a Chargeback which was filed from a fraudulent buyer.

    So, its up to you to act now. :)

    ~ExP~
     
  14. maxxtuner

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    Hope you get your money back. In the future, ask for a list of keywords the website is ranking for, then actually go check the website position for those keywords, as well as the traffic for those keywords. Then decide if you want to buy the website.