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How to Compete with Paid Links?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by david2222, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. david2222

    david2222 Registered Member

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    Hello mates,

    I know its a stupid question but good tips can certainly help. My competitor is doing relevant high PR (PR 5-7) paid linking on mass level, and he is spending thousands of dollars each month for this campaign, which i don't have. On the other hand, i have spamy scrape-box links which Google/Bing/Yahoo don't give a shit anymore. :(

    What could be a good strategy to beat his paid High PR links.

    David
     
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  2. b1step-ahead

    b1step-ahead Power Member

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    Make your content go viral. If your competitor is spending soo much on paid links, it may suggest that they don't think outside the box. Without knowing the industry, the details, its hard to help you. Some people on bh do really well with scrape-box. Search those threads and try to pick up on what there doing.
     
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  3. Autumn

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    Move to a new niche...

    High PR relevant paid links is an almost unbeatable strategy because those are pretty much the best links there are (high PR / one way / relevant / appear to be contextual). Yes you could theoretically beat them with mass quantities of free links, especially if you get them from a variety of sources, but it's going to require a lot of time and effort. Any other strategy (e.g. buying up established domains and using them to feed link juice to your site) is going to require substantial financial investment.

    If you are in a highly competitive niche and you can't match the deep pockets of your established competitors, you'll get a better ROI on money and time if you find a less competitive niche, or just forget about the short tails and stick to scraping up traffic from the long tails until you have more of a linking budget. There are many niches (e.g. online casino short tails) where no amount of spamming is going to get you in the serps for any reasonable amount of time because million dollar competitors have got it all sewn up.
     
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  4. david2222

    david2222 Registered Member

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    Agree with both!

    Its education niche, competitive one. IMO, one good way is to use social media to make content viral like throwing files on scribd etc. Second thing is to use Black hat software s on mass level in a sensible way, means sensible way.
     
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    BottingWorks Regular Member

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    Try to counter his quality links with quantity, perhaps 10Million blog posts would suffice?
     
  6. david2222

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    Yeah, i am going to share my experience that completely negates penguin and Google claims but not try this to your old domain. I i just came across a website during my link building campaign. It was created on 2012-04-26 and in few months, it is now at number one spot in Google and getting 26k unique visitors every month!

    After evaluating its link profile, i came to know that owner just blasted and blasted spammy links with SB to his home page. #1 right now:eek:
     
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  7. toptoptop

    toptoptop BANNED BANNED

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    No way bro, choose another niche.
     
  8. PreacherJesse

    PreacherJesse Registered Member

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    think long-term.

    content + consistency + patience will give you results.

    buying links can only go so far. once google detects it or someone reports the links as paid, it's over.

    :)
     
  9. seo-addict

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    I'm making payday loans go viral. Oh wait, no.... Srsly... Save up some money and build relevant high pr backlinks if you want to compete, if not, buhbye!!!!!

     
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    seo-addict Regular Member

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    Dumb de dum dumb you forgot anytime you build a link it's against TOS regardless if it's "paid" pr not. Open SEnuke = break TOS....

    OP - Get as many paid links as possible from the RIGHT sources and you'll win. Also don't take advice from newbies it will make your life a lot harder (trust me).

     
  11. RightInTwo

    RightInTwo Power Member

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    I'm not saying that i would do this, but one option that you could have is to be a rat and out the guy. Google loves a snitch and you could kill his rankings pretty quick.

    You could fill out a webmaster tools report or could post it on the google forums to draw some attention. You have to be careful though if you do this and make sure that you're white hat and won't get any backfire from it.
     
  12. seo-addict

    seo-addict Regular Member

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    Wow, I guess the "SEO pact" died with Penguin. Sad