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How to cheat sleep

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by gbmack, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. gbmack

    gbmack Power Member

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    I got this from yahoo answers. This is pretty good for you people wanting to manage your sleep well.

    A really cool trick to helping your sleep is to learn about sleep cycles.

    (Sorry in advance if this gets long)
    A typical person goes through a full REM sleep cycle in 90 minutes (this can average +/- ~5-10 minutes a person). With this in mind, it is critical to make sure you plan your sleep schedule to allow yourself to wake up as close to the end of a cycle as possible.

    Therefore for most people the best amount of sleep to receive is 4.5 hour, 6 hours, 7.5, or 9.

    The next step is to learn how long it takes you to fall a sleep on average. This can average anywhere from 5 minutes to 2-3 hours for some people, so this is really something you'll have to figure out on your own. And this just comes with time, most people have a ballpark idea of how long it takes.

    So say it takes you about 30 minutes to fall asleep, and you know you need to get up at 8am. The best times to head to bed would be 10:30pm, Midnight, 1:30am, or 3:00am.

    The key to all of this is that it's actually more beneficial to get 7 and a half hours of sleep vs. 8. If you don't hit a sleep cycle well, say you get 8.5 hours of sleep, you will wake up in the middle of a REM cycle and actually be MORE tired vs. getting 6 hours of sleep and hitting the cycle right.

    I actually suggest to people if you know you need to get up at 8am, and you look at the clock and it's 12:30am, it's actually MORE beneficial to stay up until 1:30am so you can plan 30 minutes to fall asleep, and then get your 6 hours of sleep.

    The great thing about these sleep cycles is it can start working for some people within the first night or two of starting this. Some people don't see improved energy throughout the day for a week or two on the cycle, but the important thing to keep in mind is this is NOT dualistic. And by that i mean, it isn't important to always to doing this, and if you don't plan a sleep cycle for a day or two ( or a week/month) it doesn't set you back at all. If it's sunday afternoon and you want to sleep for 10-11 hours, go for it! Don't worry about always sleeping in 90 minute intervals.

    Hopefully I've explained this well, if you are curious about learning more you can always google 90 minute REM cycles
    I love discussing sleep cycles, lucid dreaming, and human health, so feel free to hit me up anytime. Hope this works well, and you start feeling better.



    I guess this explains why sometimes I only get 4-5 hours of sleep and when I wake up I don't feel too tired vs. times when I sleep for 7 hours and when I wake up I feel like shit.
     
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  2. ManToMan

    ManToMan Regular Member

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    Too deep. I'm not understand.
     
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    pr0xy Regular Member

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    Basically it's just sleep a little less or a little more depending on how much you sleep to wake up more energized.
     
  4. true3000

    true3000 Regular Member

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    oh man...good advice as long as it actually works. maybe now my wife won't bitch at me for going to bed late only to get up late!
     
  5. phpfiend

    phpfiend Junior Member

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    Good advice! No wonder I get the same results as described above...

    @true3000 HAHA Thats funny! Yeah next time tell her its more beneficial and "healthier" for you to do so..
     
  6. blackmagiquellc

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    along with the infamous

    "20 minute exact Naps to rejuvinate your body"

    nice share mate :)
     
  7. BigHustlah

    BigHustlah Power Member

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    Nice, this is actually very helpful to me because I frequently get less than the recommended 8 hours. Knowing I can go for 6, or 4.5, at least gives me a little strategy.
     
  8. firstrate

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    Wow. This is amazing if true.... duly noted for when I stay up late making campaigns :)
     
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    keinehabe Supreme Member

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    if i`m not sleeping 9-10 hours a day I`m like a zombie lol , actually that was the main reason for what years ago I quit my 9-5 job lmao , too much abuse about this shiet to sleep only small amount of time and work like crazy made me after couple of years to be like a shadow skinny and serious headcache problems :) . Sleep is damn it good and it's a MUST
     
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  10. mrobeng

    mrobeng Registered Member

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    I find no matter how hard I try to sleep it just doesn't work for me. I sleep on average 5 hours a day. Can't sleep at all during the day and no matter how late I sleep at night, I always wake up after 4-5hrs. I could do with a good sleep therapy. Damn I look so skinny..l
     
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    trushafty38 Regular Member

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    Im glad I dont really worry about sleep anymore. I just go as I please. No set schedule really. Working for myself is the best thing that has ever happened to me. ahhhhh wooosa
     
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    Ok lets clarify that..
    I need to sleep at least 90 minutes in REM [ending of sleep]
    and i need to sleep one of those:
    4.5 hour, 6 hours, 7.5, or 9 ? or it depends on me which one o those?
    i dont get it 90 mins = 1,5h why the hell do i need to sleep 6h then?
    please repeat im interested
    ps. i sleep 5h a day.
     
  13. The Joker

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    well if you do the math

    1.5+1.5+1.5+1.5 = 6

    by the end of the 4th sleep cycle it would equal 6 hours.

    The aim would be to wake up at the end or at the beginning of a sleep cycle so you don't wake up when you are in a deep stage of your sleep.
     
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  14. YoungGuns

    YoungGuns Regular Member Premium Member

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    There's also this method where supposedly you can just take something like a 15 minute nap every (I think) 2 hours and you never have to go to sleep at all. It's supposed to take about a week to get used to.
     
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    BigHustlah Power Member

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    I wonder if people actually do this. That only equals out to 3 hours of total sleep per 24 hours, and none of it is deep sleep.
     
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    I have no idea if it actually works, but I think the theory is it somehow trains your body to immediately go into the deep sleep cycle.
     
  17. jetti789

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    I guess I will stick with the old school/no tech approach.

    I need my 8 hours nightly. It helps me function better.
     
  18. kevski

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    YoungGuns: That's exactly what it does -- sends your body right into deep sleep. There's a few variations:

    Biphasic Sleep - sleep twice a day
    Polyphasic Sleep - sleep numerous times a day

    There actually are people who do this, but you need a flexible schedule and understanding loved ones.
     
  19. orangeblossoms

    orangeblossoms Regular Member

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    That's the polyphasic sleep schedule. It takes at least 10 days to somewhat adapt, and I think full adaptation (where you're super awake and refreshed on only 20 mins of sleep) takes a bit longer.

    I tried it for 5 days and got NOTHING done even though I had so much time. I'd stare at the wall for hours because my eyes would hurt too much to stare at the computer (so got no work done). It makes you really pissy. I slurred my words a lot according to people who called me lol. I slept on the floor so I wouldn't get too comfortable. On the 5th day I started yelling at people.

    If you miss a nap, you're back to Day 1. Time literally crawls. On the 6th day, I accidentally overslept by 4 hours and then I gave up.

    Good times though.
     
  20. kveldulv

    kveldulv Registered Member

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    Another good 'trick' is to drink a decent amount of water before you go to bed. Your body still needs it while you sleep, and it'll stop you waking up feeling so dehydrated.