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How To Be A Professional IM

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by learningmarketing, Jun 15, 2009.

  1. learningmarketing

    learningmarketing BANNED BANNED

    May 4, 2009
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    Hi guys - just wanted to start a thread to seek advice/thoughts/experience on what it takes to take IM to the next level - ie full time occupation

    also what software you use to help you automate your day to day operations - what is good and what is bad

    also what do you spend your time doing for marketing - blogs/cl/email/building sites or some other method.

    I havent been in IM long and Ive made roughly a $1000 - I cant give a daily figure because alot of mine are sales ... and I feel Im underachieving.

    software I use

    PR Storm/hummingbird/scrape genius/xsite pro 2/camtasia/youtube friend adder

    and for Proxies I use elite proxy switcher

    I started out using blogger blogs but now more towards really targetted landing pages and web sites - because of the trust factor in using/buying products... blogger is too basic and too easily identified.

    I probably spend 3 hours a day - doing twitter/youtube/updating sites-offers etc

    another 3 hours reading

    have access to 4 pc's but really only use 1 or 2

    so tips/pointers/feedback something Im doing right or wrong - would really appreciate it.
  2. sereja

    sereja Newbie

    Dec 10, 2008
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    Best advice I've ever gotten is to find what works and stick with it. There's no use in trying to be everything to everyone.
  3. kobees home

    kobees home Registered Member

    Jul 17, 2008
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    exactly, when you have have somethin that works you have to stick with it ... times may change and things have to be tweeked a bit, but for the most part you stick with what works
  4. gbmack

    gbmack Power Member

    Apr 19, 2009
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    I'll throw in some advice:

    1. Do whatever you love doing. If you love e-whoring, go for it. However, some people absolutely hate it and are just doing it for the money.

    2. Get into CPA. There's big money to be made there, especially doing it blackhat. As long as it's not big time fraud, then you should be fine.

    3. If you can outsource, OUTSOURCE! The less work you do, the better.

    4. You do not need so many programs or computers. One computer with no programs can suffice.

    5. Generate revenue from blackhat CPA. Then invest much of it into whitehat stuff, such as PPC. Or you can buy a website from sitepoint.
  5. low key

    low key Junior Member

    Jun 8, 2009
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    nah. but thanks.
    Wut? Especially doing blackhat?
    I think you are wrong, doing blackhat you can't make a million dollars every day. You just CAN'T. The conversion rate will be too low, even if you mix it out on many networks you will get caught.

    So you are wrong. Doing blackhat is a good way to get quick income. And make a lot of money. But its always limited to have to be under the radar.

    So, you can't make a million dollars every day.
  6. james75

    james75 Newbie

    Jun 12, 2009
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    dont forget for your mindset. Always get creative and never give up
  7. 4alllifestyles

    4alllifestyles Junior Member

    Dec 3, 2008
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    Some other "Big Picture" things to remember:

    1) It's a Business - Treat it as one, run it like one.
    2) Outsource of Course - But Build Relationships with those you do business with.
    3) Be Disciplined - Make lists, use whiteboards, whatever it takes.
    4) Diversity - Sell your own product, and a few others. Spread the risk and reap the rewards
    5) Don't go crazy buying "stuff"... But make sure the stuff you do buy is 1st rate industrial solid
  8. moonbitee

    moonbitee Junior Member

    Mar 26, 2009
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    My advice to you,

    You will need a lot of PATIENCE fot this business, as sometimes is overnight success, sometimes it will take longer, you just keep on trying and dont give up!

    Stick to ONE method or online business until you build a nice income of that!

    Avoid getting over overwhelmed with all the info available in this great forum
  9. gbmack

    gbmack Power Member

    Apr 19, 2009
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    There are so many inconsistencies in your post.

    1. I never said you will make millions of dollars a day.

    2. There are techniques for increasing the conversion rate, and if you mix it out on many networks there is a small chance you will get caught.

    3. You say I am wrong when you agreed with my previous post "There is big money to be made in blackhat CPA." You said "Doing blackhat is a good way to get quick income. And make a lot of money." Please read my post thoroughly before blindly criticizing. This clearly states my post is "right."

    Sorry if I played the devil's advocate here, but I just had to.

    And back on topic:

    I think the MOST important things are:
    1. Stick to a few methods and keep working them. Do some research and improve your methods. Scale them up.
    2. If you can outsource, outsource.
    3. Write down your methods and plans on paper. Write down your goals, your tools, your instructions, etc. all on paper.
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2009
  10. the_demon

    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

    Nov 23, 2008
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    Search Engine Marketing
    The Internet
    Not listed in any particular order:

    1. Make contracts (everything)
    2. Make friends
    3. Find what you like doing, do it better than anyone else
    4. outsource
    5. Build clientèle
    6. Build creditability
    7. Expand and diversify
    8. organize and schedule
    9. under promise, over deliver
    10. keep learning

    PS: Software is a good aid but, you need the fundamental knowledge to be profitable.
  11. blackhatjamie

    blackhatjamie BANNED BANNED

    Sep 11, 2007
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    Here is some tips that I have..

    - Do not listen to courses step by step, tweak it, change it, and find the best method that works for you. Following them step by step will not work to its fullest as many others are following it step by step already which has the market saturated.
    - Sell products that help make people money such as automated tools. Programs like these you can basically name your price and is always in high demand.
    - ADWORDS! adwords can make you rich if you do it right. That is where I got started.