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how seo companies guarantee result on 1st SERP?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by dikoro, Oct 4, 2009.

  1. dikoro

    dikoro Regular Member

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    I don't understand. Can they really do it? Guaranteeing 1st page of Google SERP isn't that too good to be true? Even on competitive keywords. Is it B.S.?

    anyone know this?
     
  2. Walter12

    Walter12 Newbie

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    Anyone can do it, it just takes time and knowledge and fucking search function that's for sure. Hopefully you will be able to spot the reference here.
     
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  3. oxonbeef

    oxonbeef BANNED BANNED

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    No one can guarantee 1st page in organic search. Google could change their algorithms in the middle of the night. But changing your search settings to 100 results a page certainly helps.
    Call one up and tell them to get you on the first page for the key word "Google".
     
  4. dikoro

    dikoro Regular Member

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    That's the point. Many of them do guarantee it. That's why i don't understand may be i'll take your advice and call one up.
     
  5. stressfree

    stressfree Senior Member

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    it's quite easy with long tail key words....what's the problem?
     
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    oxonbeef BANNED BANNED

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    I just remembered this.
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  7. reqd

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    Any discerning business owner who knows a bit about SEO will know that a 1st page guarantee is a load of shit.

    Even if your page does hit the first page of google their implications never state that:

    A) It will be up for any length of time
    B) It will rank for any keyword that will actually convert or have relevance
    C) -And this is where they fuck you - The ranking search result will link to a page on YOUR domain.

    Let's say your name is Mike Hunt and you're a realtor in Los Angeles and dont know jack shit about SEO or the internoodle.

    I would sell you on a first page google ranking for the term 'Mike Hunt Los Angeles Real Estate' (who the fuck is going to search for that- but what the hell do you know?)

    Achieve the ranking in a few hours on a Squidoo or Hub Page (big fucking whoop - but you're shitting yourself because your name is on google!)

    Explain to you the fickle nature of google's algorithm and stipulate that there is no guarantee as to the length of time your rankings will hold.

    You'll agree, because I'm that good.

    Collect my $825 consult fee.

    Change my phone number.

    Go to vegas - put the $825 on black - double up to $1,650

    Get a bit too drunk, put the $1,550 on black (spent 100 on drinks)

    Lose it all.

    Cry.

    Go back and find another schmucker hard working professional or small business owner who doesnt know any better to weasel SEO dollars out of and repeat.

    I think guaranteeing ANYTHING is any service industry is fucking unethical and bad business practice. Unless you're 100% positive you can deliver i.e. you're a pimp, and you tell a john 'Yo Homie. I GUARANTEE that this bitch right here will lick your ass for fifty-dollars.' And you know you can deliver because you've got a gun to the girls head...

    Unless you're in a position like that. You have no business guaranteeing shit.

    Is guaranteeing even a fucking word?
     
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    That's the funniest thing i read all day, LOL.
     
  9. dikoro

    dikoro Regular Member

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    LOL!!! Right on man!! REQD. you're the man. That's what i'm talking about. It must be unethical to guarantee that kind of shit. thanks man.
     
  10. dikoro

    dikoro Regular Member

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    @oxonbeef

    i was NOT thinking about long tail keyword that's what the problem. i was thinking of competitive - spot on keyword phrases as a SEO guy would. well....if what they promise are stupid long tail keywords like that, then it worthless shit. thanks
     
  11. projext

    projext Regular Member

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    Sometimes they mean Adwords but they don't say...or a google local listing
     
  12. ricaum

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    Money back guarantee?

    And for some keywords, 1st page is not enough, 1st and 2nd results are.
     
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    Thats the best thing i read this week ! man, you watched too many guy ritchie movies..

    I agree, seo guarantees are a big bullshit, they need your money only and after 45 days nobody cares about the position anymore, cause its 'so' complicated and needs time.. and the paypal dispute period has also passed after that time.
     
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    they can't guarantee but it's achievable by time!
     
  15. didieh

    didieh Newbie

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    He is damn right
    promoting :"nice place in west virginia near black st." is ridiculous
     
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    I might start adding this step to all my campaigns.
     
  17. yousefgreat

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    1st place guarantee is IMPOSSIBLE. Most SEO companies claiming that are either dreamers/scammers. In the past couple of years, I have passed by lots of SEO companies that offered such services. However, I was not shocked to see that they turned out to be scammers a couple of months later.

    First Page guarantee or Top5 is much more realistic though :)
     
  18. risefromdeath

    risefromdeath Power Member

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    thats why i dont give gaurentees to my clients..but they end up getting first page many times :) even for a 10500000 competative keyword!! ..so its not tough nor easy either..if the site is properly optimised and you have content and you are smart enough than you can easily get there :)
     
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    Yeah it seems most don't guarantee a length of time, and the key is they don't guarantee sales