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How Much Would you Pay for Guaranteed FIRST Page ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by deki33, Jan 3, 2012.

  1. deki33

    deki33 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I'm thinking to launch guaranteed first page SEO service.
    Depends of client domain age and competition it's just question of time (one month to six months).

    How much would you pay such service ?
     
  2. meatro

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    Guaranteed, huh?

    I want page 1 for "free flash games," "free porn" and "cats." I will pay you $100/month per keyword... Please submit an accurate time frame for my results. (While we're guaranteeing page 1, we may as well predict the future too, eh?)

    Guaranteed............... GLWT.
     
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  3. deki33

    deki33 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I'm not talking about number 1, but about first page.
     
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    If you're asking a question like this, I think you're in over your head already.
     
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    deki33 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Do you think you can get "free flash games" on first page with budget of $100/month ?

    I'm talking about real numbers...
     
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    Well if you pay nothing till your number 1 its worth any price. I want to be number 1 for dating sites please put them in touch with me. :)
     
  7. mark27

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    I've seen a couple of these, it depends what you're offering. Guaranteed first for exact match domain isn't that big of a deal for most sites. Are you going to offer first place for other keywords too?

    -If you offer guaranteed first for any keyword you're talking millions.

    You're probably not doing that, so take a look at the competition(how good/many) and your clients site to see how hard it's going to be to get first and then base the rate on that.

    *****Make sure to have them sign a contract with SPECIFIC TERMS of which keyword/s and $$$. = Get a lawyer.
     
  8. MagicMike

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    Well... I'm thinking he means "Guaranteed or the customer won't pay".

    I did this for awhile, and occasionally still do... of course, I pick my markets and contact the prospects proactively that I want to do business with rather than advertise a service where you're getting people requesting keywords like "free porn" that you'd be working a long, long time to rank for (and probably wouldn't) for nothing.

    So, the model works if you screen very tightly, but in my opinion quickly becomes a waste of time and energy if you just put it out there as a general service.
     
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    Stupid questions gets stupid answers. Dont be rude if something offer a low amount of monthly pay. You need put limits to the question to get what you want.
     
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    I have seen these kind of offers on Warrior Forum. They charge $100 per keyword/per month.
    If the competation is too high then they will mention that it takes around 2-3 months for page 1.

    P.s: If you are thinking about providing this service, Charge Upfront.
     
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    its depend on keyword and competition!
     
  12. meatro

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    That was sort of my point, the whole thing sounds like a waste of time. No offense at all.

    (And no, I don't think $100/month will get page 1 for "free flash games." Although, you did ask how much I'd pay. That was my answer. Nor do I think you could genuinely guarantee that I would be on page 1 for the keyword. EVER.)

    Say I did agree to your terms and your budget of $52,000,000; I'd simply waste 20 years of your life trying to rank for a keyword and never have to pay you. Maybe get creative with your wording, guaranteed placement for local keywords or something.

    All I was trying to get across is this can get very tricky very fast for you if you just throw out, "guaranteed first page."
     
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    Guaranteed first page means nothing... Guaranteed top 3 position, thats maybe different. If you're down there in 8th or 9th position you still wont be getting much traffic.

    "guaranteed first page" sounds good to prospective clients that dont know to much, so if you want to market to them, go ahead and charge hundreds of dollars per month. I personally would not pay anything for a service like this unless you could guarantee top 3.

    Good luck
     
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    -That's where my statement about hiring a lawyer to create a contract comes in.

    I'd suggest making your catchy statement less broad and more focused on what the customer wants. Most people don't care about first page google because they can't connect the dots to more $$$.

    Show them an example where you increased revenue 42% with your "special sauce" SEO and they'll pay out their a$$.
     
  15. SweTech

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    I would never buy a service like that. The reason is simple, it´s not possible to guarantee a long term top 3 ranking.
     
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    I didn't talk about "long term"
    I can make you to hip page 1,
    and if you want to continue paying I can keep it there, if not, it will drop.
     
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    This sort of thing doesn't work for affiliates.

    For regular businesses getting on page 1, even if #8-#10 is still going to make a difference to their business. When SEO companies offer these guaranteed page #1 things or your money back they don't really need contracts etc. It's more like saying "Your money back if you don't see an increase in business".

    The clients will often have about 20+ keywords they want to rank for, but it's unlikely they'll get page 1 for every keyword, but again, that doesn't matter. All that matters to the business is if they're making more than they're spending and for an offline business where they maybe get $50 to $1000 upwards per paying customer/client that's an easy proposition.

    Profit margins are too slim for most affiliate sites for affiliates to bother with this sort of thing. There's plenty of great SEO companies out there that'll guarantee page 1 for even some very steep keywords, but you can pay upwards of $10k/mo. For a business that's offering a service or selling goods that's nothing, but for a 1 single affiliate site it's too steep unless it's one of the big niches.

    As an affiliate you're always better just spending that $10k/mo on services/tools/workers yourself so you have the control to redirect resources towards the more profitable ventures and simply because you know as much as the SEO companies do anyway.




    That doesn't mean much. Someone with almost no SEO knowledge could make you hop to page #1, number #1 for "how to skin a green elephant"(lol).

    You would really need to give us examples of the most competitive keywords you could get page #1 for. Could you get page #1 for "make money online"? That's fairly competitive, but it's nowhere near as hard as some keywords.

    Give examples of a few keywords you know you could get page #1 for and people will be able to have a look at them and get a feel for what you're capable of.
     
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  18. Narrator

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    I don't see how you could ask how much someone would pay. I have sites I wouldn't pay more than $50 for first page rankings and others I've spent thousands for the current rankings.
     
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    Yeah it all depends on the value of the keyword...

    To OP: If you are going to offer a service like this, perhaps you could use an analyzer like traffic travis and have price variations based on the difficulty to rank. Just an idea.
     
  20. ActionTaker

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    I'd pay you a million if you can rank me number one for the term "Google" ;-)