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how much to charge for web design?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by theseodude, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. theseodude

    theseodude Regular Member

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    here is my situation:
    I told this guy 2 months ago that I could make him a simple site for $500

    ever since then, he has had multiple meetings with me, each one lasting 30 minutes to one hour. the meetings dont accomplish anything, it's a bunch of bullshit that he could say over email.
    every time he says he is ready to proceed and will give me a check soon. but I have been given no check.
    I sent him a web design contract, which he has completely ignored.
    I told him I want 100% upfront, he says he wants to pay $250 upfront and $250 after.

    tomorrow he has set up yet another meeting. this seems like a waste of time to me. from the way he has been acting, I expect he will be a headache. he will probably have me set up the site and then say "change this, change that" every day.
    so am I getting greedy or is $500 not enough for this job? should I tell him I have raised my price, or should I try to make it work for the potential word of mouth advertising? I am in the US if that matters.
     
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  2. TheeAriGrande

    TheeAriGrande Regular Member

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    Most designers charge 50-60 percent of the total up front and the rest after the first draft is delivered. I would recommend collecting half when he signs the contract. The collect the rest when you deliver it.

    I would also recommend adding the number of drafts or changes that the client can request. This way he can't have you making hundreds of changes to the design.

    Make sure your contract is well written and covers all points of the agreement.
     
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  3. txhepoker

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    $3,000-$5,000 for a wordpress site... Anything less isn't worth my time... Any changes are at $50-100 an hour...
     
  4. propipper

    propipper Newbie

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    Just be careful taking half down. If you do, then you need to clearly state when his website design is complete. He's been a headache so far with no money. Once he gives you some hell expect the world. Get it in writing when the design is done. If he wants changes, then that will cost him hourly. Good luck
     
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    It seems like he's just going to be a problem.

    Charge him $500 with limited revisions or $2,000+ for unlimited revisions. But be sure to let him know a revision isn't an update. You won't be his administrator updating a page of content whenever he wants it.

    If he does want to hire you as his website admin then do it. Charge him something like $47 a month to add content, images, etc.
    Make sure the website is 100% done before pitching the web admin proposition because if he knows early on he may have you "finish" the website and then a week later ask you to add 20 new pages lol.

    Make him pay half up front and then do milestone payments. Like $250 at the start, $125 when half way done, and $125 upon completion. That's if you only charge him $500 for everything.
     
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    I have the same thinking.
     
  7. back2basics

    back2basics Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Sounds like you should start charging him for the meetings.
     
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    adamprattler Junior Member

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    Charge him for every meeting. And from next all projects tell your client to pay full due after fixing all issue in your server.
     
  9. TerryMeshon

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    Firstly you need to be upfront and honest. If you feel your meetings are not productive and that it could be done via SKYPE or email, Tell him...

    Also, if you feel the website is cheap then it probably is. That dosent mean pull out as we learn with every site and it also generates more business, so just remember for your next client.

    I charge between 450euros - 1699euros for small business websites depending on number of pages and amount of content supplied.
     
  10. Mr.Julyan

    Mr.Julyan Regular Member

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    I see what's been going on in here. It is not productive anymore if you meet again, so make sure your next meeting is the last meeting to conclude the deal agreement. If you have confidence in your last web design sample, you must stand up and bid at least $300 for the front payment. Make sure the work contract is detailed. I suggest making a maximum of five times re-design, if they want more re-design and change, charge him more. I hope it helps, I've been in the same situation before (not web-design tough), but petty client is my daily diet.
     
  11. FrontalLinks

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    I really wouldn't recommend taking the guy's option of letting him pay upfront at half the price. Your choice of 100% payment upfront is the way to go. If you know you'll be expecting unlimited revisions, you should price it based on limited and unlimited revisions. Good luck.
     
  12. Leith

    Leith Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Go one last time tomorrow to the meeting and tell him from hereafter you will be charging him for meetings. Period.

    Your time is precious, so make it clear to him that it is.
     
  13. HeRBaR

    HeRBaR Supreme Member

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    Do you buy premium themes? or you create new themes from scratch for your client???
    Because recently I have seen a trend of web designers using premium themes and not designing new ones...