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How much should you pay for an expired domain?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MySeoEmail, Dec 26, 2015.

  1. MySeoEmail

    MySeoEmail Regular Member

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    So I am building my first PBN. Seems like the domains I am finding on godaddy get in a bidding war and go for like $80 each. Now these are domains that have a TF of 25 and a CF of 28. Pretty good and a DA of 25 or above. Is it common with domains of this caliber to go this high? I set my limit at $50 and check back and they all go for like $75 or 80.
     
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    if u think its worth it u can ask the seller for a bin but i dont really reccommend wasting too much n expired first u should ask ur self why did the seller let it expired
     
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    Have you tried bidding on those domains that have ~24 hours left till the end of auction and do not have bids yet. Sometimes you can get very good deals for a very low price.
     
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    Here are some threads on bhw about how to scrape nice domains by yourself. Just need to spend $10 for registration (or less).
     
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    it's 2016 and people still go after metrics , yeah good luck with your seo dude
     
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    Else take a look through the BHW market place, there are a few seller that do the research for you at quite a reasonable price. Then get in touch, ask for domains I the niche you are looking for. Services without the registered domain vary in price (for the research) from $3 a pop to $50 or so.
     
  7. MySeoEmail

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    Of course I look at metrics. I ranked a site with someone else's PBN now I want to rank with my own. I am surely not going to get spammed domains with foreign or adult related backlinks. All the domains I look for have authority and well known site links. All in which will pass link juice to your money site! What else do you suggest? All major SEO players I know are using same or similar method to rank.

    I can do my own metrics checking. I have access to majestic and ahrefs.
     
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    Bidding war all the way to $80 you say...? Here is my competition.

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    DJPaulyD Power Member

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    I wouldn't pay more than the domain registration fee.
     
  10. MySeoEmail

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    Honestly I don't think that kind of domain would be good for a PBN. Unless you get lucky then registration fee alone should get you much power. I guess you could scrape and hope to find a good one but man does that take some time.
     
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    yeah yeah , pick up all the pbn domains with the mozmoustache 30 plus and you will dominate the serps 100%
     
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    As an expired domains seller myself, I can say a few BS arguments going on in both sites. Many of the replies are irrelevant to the question asked by the OP. Anybody who says expired domains do not work or PBNs do not work are just giving a BS. And metrics matter a lot though there are a lot more checks than just metrics. You need to check a lot of stuff including history, past penalty etc. which would come with experience.

    If the domains is really a goldmine, $80 is not a bad price for TF CF DA 25+. The backlinks and quality has to be decent enough to demand the pricing though. If it was a spammy site, Chinese history, PBN history or any other major problems in the past, just let it go. It would be money wasted. But for good quality authentic domains with real/organic backlinks, natural anchor text ratio and possible backlinks from authority sites, it is well worth the price.

    If you want to go for something lesser, you can go for TF CF DA 15+ etc. which would still be effective enough and go for a lower price.

    One more thing. Try to diversify backlinks and not depend only on PBNs.
     
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    Check my sig, I have some domains matching the description for 40-50.00.
     
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    It depends, don't get into a bidding war. I have bought expired domains for even 1800 dollars, cases where it has numerous powerful backlinks and main stream media mentions. For instance a backlink from huffpost today would cost you 1000-1500 dollars. What if you get a domain name with so many huff post backlinks? You can build a good website, recreate the missing pages drive traffic and then flip it or build a business around it.

    As far as just PBN is concerned wait for expired domains or the $5 domain, if you keep researching you will get very good domain names there as well.

    Metrics are everything if you are offering PBN services. PR is dead, yet people sell backlink in the name of High PR backlinks..
     
  15. Davseun

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    Try scrape for expired domains. You'd eventually get more than enough.
     
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    How can you get dropped domains for reg fee? If you pay a drop catching service don't they charge a $69 fee to catch it. That's a little more expensive then the reg fee. If there is a better way to catch a dropped domain please let me know!
     
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    For $20 to $30 you could get some decent domains. You don't want to get in a bidding war with a lot of people on them though.
    Really, I wouldn't be buying them off those types of bid sites anyways..kinda takes the "private" out of the PBN.

    Find ways to scrape your own, or pay someone to scrape them for you.

    You will want to check majestic, moz, archive, and more. Make sure that there are no spam links and that the site is at least mildly relevant to your site.

    When you find a domain with no spam, and relevant backlinks with good metrics, then yeah it is worth it.
     
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    Depends on the quality of the domain but I usually pay $40-$50 for a good domain with 10+ good/great links.

    For $10-$20 you will get domains with 2-4 ok links.
     
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    I've found some nice domains this way; however, the highest Google PR I've been able to register is PR4. The higher ranked ones (PR5-8) are always registered by a Chinese squatter (or the likes).