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How much more Money can Ebay Milk from everyone?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Diamond Damien, Jan 5, 2007.

  1. Diamond Damien

    Diamond Damien Owner BlackHatWorld Staff Member Jr. VIP

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    Looks Like good ole ebay is trying to milk more money out of all its users. Fees have increased this year.
    As if they don't make enough money...I know half of the money is going straight to the executives pockets.


    [​IMG] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]eBay sent this message to David ( xxxxxx). [/FONT]
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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [​IMG]Dear xxxxx,
    An important part of any business strategy is the regular evaluation of pricing structure. From time to time, we make pricing changes to correct unhealthy dynamics in the eBay marketplace, as was the case last July. Typically, however, we make changes on an annual basis at the beginning of the year.
    Today, I'm here to tell you about fee adjustments for eBay.com and eBay Motors which go into effect on January 30, 2007.

    Let me say that, while we believe these changes are modest, we consider any changes that may impact our sellers with great care. These adjustments are the result of careful analysis and we believe they're the right thing to do to keep the marketplace strong for our eBay.com and eBay Motors sellers.
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    Core Listing Fees: Auction-Style & Fixed Price*
    [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Fee Type[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Item Price[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]New Fee[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Current Fee[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Insertion Fee[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Starting Price:
    $1.00 - $9.99
    [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]$0.40[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]$0.35[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Final Value Fee[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Selling Price:
    $25.01 - $1000.00
    [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]3.25%[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]3%[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]*Does not impact Store Inventory Listings.
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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]
    eBay Motors Vehicles Fees
    [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]The fees listed above will also apply to Parts & Accessories.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Fee Type[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]New Fee[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Current Fee[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Motorcycles & Powersports
    Transaction Services Fee
    [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]$40[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]$30[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Cars & Trucks, Other
    Vehicles & Trailers
    Transaction Services Fee
    [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]$50[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]$40[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Motors Reserve Fee[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]0.1% of reserve price
    ($5 minimum,
    $10 maximum)
    [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]$5[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]
    To learn more about each of these changes, I invite you to read our Frequently Asked Questions and our eBay Fees Help page. (To learn more about Canada fee adjustments, please check the Announcement Board for eBay.ca.)


    A Successful Online Holiday Shopping Season
    As I've said many times, one of our most important jobs here at eBay is ensuring that we're driving buyers to the site. This online holiday shopping season was a big success, and I want to acknowledge the outstanding efforts this last quarter from our marketing team led by Gary Briggs. Our integrated "IT" campaign performed well for the second year in a row, reaching our targeted shoppers an average of 13 times per person.

    In fact, according to Nielsen NetRatings, overall traffic to online shopping sites on the day after Thanksgiving (known as "Black Friday") grew 12% from last year--and eBay was the number one shopping destination that day with an impressive 7.5 million unique visitors. But the good news didn't stop there. This momentum continued through the weekend to "Cyber Monday" (the Monday after Thanksgiving), which has become associated with peak online holiday shopping activity. I'm pleased to report that Nielsen declared eBay the most visited Internet site that day, too, with 5.6 million visitors.
    Of course, our shelves need to be well-stocked when the buyers arrive, so these results are testament to the partnership we have with our dedicated sellers. We can all be proud of our joint success in pleasing shoppers with whatever "IT" was this season.

    More to come in 2007


    Looking ahead at the new year, it's never been more important that eBay deliver value through our marketing investments, product initiatives, and Trust & Safety strategies. Times have changed from 11 years ago when we were a small innovative idea on the Internet. Quite frankly, some of the problems demanding our attention are more complex. But what inspires me every morning--and what I hope inspires you, too--is that the opportunities for eBay and its Community to succeed by celebrating what makes us unique have never been greater. Later this month, I'll be addressing a group of eBay sellers who will be here in person in the San Jose area, and I'll be sharing some of our plans and priorities for the coming year. My keynote speech will be available via a recorded Webcast for our whole Community (more details will be available soon) and we'll be following the event with more announcements on specific initiatives. I think you'll find we're taking a surprisingly fresh look at some of the old challenges, and I'm excited about the road ahead.
    On behalf of everyone at eBay, I wish you all a very Happy New Year.
    Sincerely,
    Bill Cobb
    President, eBay North America
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  2. drawstring

    drawstring Junior Member Premium Member

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    Time to bend over and take it like a man! lol
     
  3. Blackguard_Rogue

    Blackguard_Rogue Newbie

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    Hey I used to play a game called monopoly.

    eBay is very big and they know it, they love to lift up your skirt and begin the screwing process. There are alternatives, like building your own eCommerce site (a time consuming endeavor).

    I do use eBay, but not exclusively, it is always wise never to depend on only one method of commerce. They will never make it so you can't make *something* from it cause if they do somebody else will build a better mouse trap and the eBayers will leave in droves to better leverage their profit margins.

    :)
     
  4. zoom57

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    paypal, ebay owned, is at 2.9 cents per! cash cow all the way around.
     
  5. g0dsp33d

    g0dsp33d Newbie

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    Craigslist.

    fuck ebay.

    there is a lot of free online add sites. be a 'Spartan' and support them.
     
  6. vincent

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    eBay is absolutely ridiculous. They keep pinching eBay sellers. Sometimes eBay makes more on a transaction than we do. That's why we had to start doing more sales off eBay..
     
  7. Whisker

    Whisker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    what the hell are you babbling about...


    This is a reason we should focus our efforts towards corps that bring in a greedy amount of revenue. There's more of a chance to fly under the radar and to bite into their unacceptable fee increases.

    Follow the money...
     
  8. Smelly-Cash

    Smelly-Cash Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I personally gave up ebay when I received the fee change email on january. I contacted them to give me a special price but they wouldn't. I then closed over 29,850 auctions. I just kept some items with high profit. $150 to $300 profit/sale

    since the gallery picture is now free (used to cost 0.35) I post 0.1 listings to drive traffic to my business opportunity site. I schedual 100s all over ebay using inkfrog. sometimes they remove my listing but since my record still shows high monthly sales they don't suspend my account when I relist. I have more than one account anyway but want to keep them in case I can sell them since the have high feedback
     
  9. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Diamond Dave wrote:

    "How much more Money can Ebay Milk from everyone?"

    Uptown writes:

    'bout as much as they fucking well want because eBay is the only game in town.
     
  10. famook

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    Very True. I tried a couple of other sites. The cost was minimal but never made one sale through another auction site. People have been saying google is gonna compete but until it actually does eBay is the only auction site people buy from.
     
  11. foxler

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    What is the next best site below ebay that don't charge so much but have a big audience of paying customers? Excluding craigslist because thats diff.
     
  12. Smelly-Cash

    Smelly-Cash Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You don't have to go for auction sites. see how much ebay charges you in fees each month. build a website and use that same amount as a monthly advertising budget and make your own business grow. Don't forget that you can find yourself suspended from ebay any second because of a stupid complaint or other....