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How much money would you invest online out of your total money?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by powermix, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. powermix

    powermix Regular Member

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    Let's discuss about it and let's see how much money are you willing to invest online out of your total money in your bank account.

    This thread is specially for those who start with a few bucks online and want to grow their online business without risking their savings of their whole life.

    How much money would you invest online? 10%, 15%, 25%?

    What will be the first things you would invest on (proxies, hosting, SEO software etc.)?

    I know this is really particular and ambiguous but I would like to know the level of risk you are taking with investments in the Internet Marketing World.
     
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  2. ChapoGuzman

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    I'll invest whatever it takes If I truly believe I can be successful at what I am attempting.
     
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  3. TTGSteve

    TTGSteve Newbie

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    Chapo nailed it on the head. You have to truly believe in what you're doing.

    As for me, about 25%.
     
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  4. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    Invest in What ? $200 for semi decent hosting a few domains and some proxies. Start there and scale up.
     
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  5. ChapoGuzman

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    I didnt even start their lol, got me a free .tk domain, free hosting and started making money asap with no investment but time and effort.
     
  6. mpiwireless

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    I just purchased a porn-based affiliate site just last month from another forum, and guess what,, it only cost me 500 with premium domain, now the website is making me 890 every month, that without any marketing done on it. So, that was my first investment into buying domains business, for the first time. That investment was only .03% of the money in my bank account, so 10 or 15% is not needed, just smarts! my 2cents.
     
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    It all depends. For startup you need to have all your sites ready to go and test. Once you find an offer that is converting and you are on weekly payouts with a trusted network dump in everything you don't need to live. I have made the mistake in the past of holding on to my money and it bit me in the ass. Other times, as I started to get more experience and I found a campaign that was banking so I throw every dime I have at it. Offers come and go and sometimes you have to just hit them when they are hot. In the past I did that with Acai, Criminal Backgrounds, Diet patches, Mindspark toolbars and alike. If you are making money make more. Don't start out throwing money into things. I did that in the beginning with TV,LI, and SS and did not test properly and took a walloping because of my own stupidity. Always start small and then grow with the offers.

    Just remember, very few things in this business we are in is forever. So just take what you can when you can get it and you will do fine.
     
  8. powermix

    powermix Regular Member

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    The problem is that you are never really sure if something is going to be 100% successful. What would be the money you will be willing to lose if everything goes wrong?
     
  9. SocialMediaManager

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    It depends upon my Confidence in the method there was a thing for which i even sold my bike n made what i expected in others i will spend not even $ but time i mean depends
     
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    MafiaBoss Elite Member

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    1% maybe.............
     
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    I agree with Treeofl1. Invest what you can live without, but keep in mind... no risk, no reward...
     
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  13. dandan594594

    dandan594594 Power Member

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    I always work on a double your investment basis then bank 50% and reinvest 50%. As long as you keep scaling up this is a good ratio.
     
  14. Jssom

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    I'll start saving money when I make something like 200k a month or it doesn't worth saving it...

    I'm scaling 90% of the money and spending 10% on my self :)
     
  15. Danny1111

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    I don't think there is a percentage

    but what I will say - is a really quality dedicated server - probably a good batch of 50-100 domains .. and ways the monetize not just Adsense, CPA , Amazon but also perhaps to sell some services

    diversification is important.

    As far as tools go - I'm not sure they are as important as before - just buy Ubot and make some simple custom ones and fix them as they break .. this may not be multithreaded and blasting thousands of links a day .. but why do you need to do that anymore ?

    perhaps gsa and a captcha breaker - would be it these days.
     
  16. Porphyrogenitus

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    First off, if you have less than $250k you're not serious if you aren't 100% in. Good luck getting any outside capital without showing some real commitment. You're short-changing yourself if you aren't, because at that point, your results are primarily based on your own efforts and ideas, and not so much on external factors. If you sell something useful, have a good education, are willing to work 60 hour weeks, and are genuinely committed to your business, you will acqire a liveable income with an agency model in any marketable field by just managing a small team and copying market leaders. But if you want to go beyond this, you have to submit yourself to the vicissitudes of fortune, earned luck, and the manageable efforts of others. You'll need to commit your life to something that will fail 90% of the time. Thus your compensation will be based on the risks taken if you come these insurmountable odds.

    Thus if you're an aggressive entrepreneur that wants to make over $100M, 100% with leverage isn't enough. If you're a conservative income investor or small business owner, your IM investment shouldn't exceed a fixed sum (I'd say 250k) plus your risk capital (capital in excess of what you need to sustain, via rent value, the lifestyle which you wish to maintain).

    Personally I'm in 100%. Everything is in my IM business, and even then everything except working capital is in a leveraged stocks; currently I'm all in on Bitcoin as of a couple days ago. Go big or go home imo. If you have less than the capital value of your labor (max income you could make at a job * ~20), you can always make it back, especially if you're young.

    Only the crazy can produce a fortune, because the only way to make one is to go all in on objectively impossible odds. Google, FedEx, Netflix, et al will substantiate this. You have to believe in something others know most likely will end in ruin. Good luck getting there with 8% pretax CAGR on 50k in capital.

    Caesar became emperor of Rome because he had the balls to cross the Rubicon. He knew odds were that he would be killed. His own words were "the die is cast". Crassus and Pompeii both died. Those that sat at home, and the winning party, survived. But the price that the indolent paid was death for most under Augustus. They wanted an easier life, but the price is submission to the will of others. In life you have to decide what you want, and live in accordance with what you expect in yourself. If you want to raise a family and live a comfortable life, get a job or find a way to make a stable income. There's nothing wrong with this, and for 90%+ this is right for you. But the price is that you won't get to control the world around you, and will never see wealth. If you want fortune, expect an uphill battle, failure, and to take impossible risks. Even if you succeed, expect to lose it. Such are the ways of life.

    Neither is universally right: It just depends on your life view.
     
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  17. vendettalogz

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    there's no guaranty to life, you never know the outcomes until you take the risks, if i believe in it like you do....I will invest about 50%
     
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    That depends on the campaign and what results it can deliver on small scale testing.

    Sometimes there are things that can't be scaled up, others times they can.

    I'd go upto 40% max of my total assets investing in a real IM Biz.
     
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    Every. Single. Penny. I can afford to lose.

    Go big or go home champ - if you are not willing to lose it all in order to gain it all then why even bother? Just let it sit in the bank and earn your 1-5% in interest.
     
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  20. Konnect

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    I would invest about 25%