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How much longer would our social network bots last if sellers required English fluency?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by deviatus, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. deviatus

    deviatus Power Member

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    Now don't get me wrong, I LOVE my friends from India and the Philippines and elsewhere. I wouldn't be where I am today without some great people from these regions. I'm not suggesting we do this, it's purely intellectual curiosity.

    If anything this is a cry out to IMers who write in broken English to take more time getting your grammar right and learning more about Western culture (because the West is where you're marketing to) so the IMers from the West and the East can both make more $.

    It's just when I'm on these soc nets doing my thing, I CRINGE whenever I see the tons of broken English obvious spam out there. No subtly at all. This is the kind of spam marketing that users notice first, and it only speeds up the complaints and abuse flaggings. This in turn speeds up the process of the soc net trying to block the bot from working and then potential legal action and threats against the bot sellers. It takes the "honeymoon period" of a new bot and pretty soon the honeymoon is over, and the bot makers then have to start making the constant updates.

    So, this is a neutral post, but I'm just wondering how much longer do you think soc net bots would last, and how much less updates would be required, if you had to prove you're a fluent English writer before purchase (and yeah I know fluent and native English speakers can make terrible obvious spam too, don't get me wrong).
     
  2. BHopkins

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    If you think that foreigners are the ones submitting broken English content, you've never seen the stuff I spin :)
     
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  3. deviatus

    deviatus Power Member

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    Yeah that's why I had to include: (and yeah I know fluent and native English speakers can make terrible obvious spam too, don't get me wrong) in the OP.
     
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    Untermensch and Ubermensch, or what? :D (no offense)
     
  5. YouFeelMeDawg?

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    First of all, as long as social nets are there spam will always be a problem for them. This has nothing to do with broken English guys taking their time to actually write proper sentence, I have seen spam that was written perfectly well and is still looked like spam.

    If you really want to fix this problem, then stop making desktop-based app is simple as that.
    Now am not saying to stop making bots, but stop making bh apps that are going unmonitored. You need to make a bot and sell it as a service, that means you hosting it and have your users pay per user, per month, or per task done. That way you control every message that goes through your system and you can control those broken english users that use your bot.

    That is the only way that I think you can actually do anything about it, making a stupid thread like this is just not going to even matter on the grandiose scale on the amount of volume that goes around these social nets. Seriously, it doesn't matter if these guys are from the east, west(or even the south or north pole) people will still write broken english spam messages because it is easy and even spinners can do them easily.

    You need to realize that with all those API's you can easily create spinnable content on-the-fly.

    So again, if you want to actually limit it stop coming up with some retarded solutions such as providing if you are a fluent english.

    WTF? now you want people to write some sort of essay so you can evaulate them on their english. GET REAL!

    Stop making desktop-based apps and make SaaS bh apps(SaaS = software as a service) then you can actually control the spam that goes through your bots.
     
  6. deviatus

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    If the person is manually writing using the bot, English fluency obviously matters. If manually spinning, again fluency matters. If auto-spinning, fluency matters even then because a fluent person will notice a good readable spin better than a non-fluent person. And then there's the cultural divide. A person from the East on average will have less familiarity and the marketing might not make sense.

    Look, I love the East when it comes to IM and their culture. But there are things people who speak broken English can do to help everyone out. I don't want English tests enforced to buy bots, even if that means less longevity and less revenue for me. I'm just curious how dramatic the impact would be if only fluent writers used these bots, and the lessening of abuse/flagging that would result, however large or small.