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How much $$$ for a domain with PR5 and around 60k backlinks?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by fear91, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. fear91

    fear91 Regular Member

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    Hello, I want to sell my domain. It has PR5 and about 60,000 backlinks.

    How much is it worth?
     
  2. aftershock2020

    aftershock2020 Senior Member

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    It depends on the niche
     
  4. thomansfel

    thomansfel Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    it depends on the domain itself and keyword
     
  5. polocolto

    polocolto Regular Member

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    I don't know why people are so afraid of revealing the domain. If you have a site you may be afraid to give to competition your keyword and all, but a domain does not have this problem.
     
  6. J0kerz

    J0kerz Supreme Member

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    Niche?
     
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    M1ndfluX Senior Member

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    Nobody knows until you list it at flippa...
     
  8. fear91

    fear91 Regular Member

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    It's about finance... loans etc...

    How much?
     
  9. Caesardimxes

    Caesardimxes Newbie

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    About $65,000
     
  10. Newo92

    Newo92 Registered Member

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    :rolleyes:
     
  11. aftershock2020

    aftershock2020 Senior Member

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    Plain and simple, guys...read the link I posted.

    Only the owner/creator can decide the value of an internet property. Don't depend on flippa or any other site to dictate what your work and effort is worth.

    Base the value of ANY domain, from either side of the coin, buying or selling the property, as if it were a house in ' real world ' real estate.

    You have to count various checklist factors to make the estimation:

    * SE Keyword Rank of the site, ( age has nothing to do with it, as a brand new domain can make the first page of google within hours, under the right seo supervision and site management. ) .

    * The niche market it is targeted in...for stability of future income in a market of value that isn't just a guru fad of the moment. Also that the generally larger niche market has multiple microniches that it can be expanded into.

    * The domain name that is clean of any spam or other illegitimate transaction history in the public listings, to make sure you aren't buying a ' lemon ' for a car as example. Also making sure that the domain name is infact brandable or not in the first place, as it isn't about targeting the keyword in the name anymore as much as it is making something socially unique that people will remember and like saying to others in word of mouth advertising. For anyone questioning this, names like; google, ebay, facebook, and twitter...just to name a few may ring a bell as this ringing true.

    * What is the standing ROI: Is it just a domain or is it an actual working internet property? How well the site is currently producing content, service/product, traffic and actual profitable sales revenue. Is it a passive residual income resource or is it a sale by sale operation? How many visitors come in per day, where are they coming from and what is the current conversion rate of potential visting buyer to purchasing client completion. How many intakes does it currently have into the cashflow funnel to turn the projected profit statistics currently making this owner so eager to sell.

    * Why does the owner want to sell the property in the first place? The only answer should be one of two things:

    I develop and flip internet properties for a living and this is my latest.

    -or-

    I'm going into a different venture and want out of the internet business.

    To prevent it from being anything else, you should always contract a 90 day buy-back option into anything you purchase online. The reason for 90 days is because you don't know if it is really making a profit, going to hit a fluke or something serious from some unforseen illegimate action that the previous owner has done will make the property dead weight in your hands down the line. That timeframe is more than enough to see how it will play out.

    * How much custom programming, script work, data entry,...real construction has gone into a site and how much would it practically cost to have it programmed in today's internet freelance market by a programmer to be completed? If you as the builder pay for it to be built, then the going rate would be whatever it cost you as part of the price tag. If you built it yourself, then you would need to go with a curve of your experience. IF you are a certified professional like I am, you can charge the top going commercial rates. If you aren't, more of an entry level to mid-level programming wage would be more practical.

    This stuff isn't something just to shoot from the hip, as if the investment in a home or a car had a multi-thousand dollar price tag on it and something was wrong with it, you would certainly use that contract to uphold their end of the bargain if it was a lie.

    That's just common sense and practical business, guys. Don't just throw a number around on these things. People that will seriously have the money to buy an internet property will ask all of these things and much more...then, will turn away from your offer without a second thought.

    I personally own over 60+ business properties on and offline and deal with big internet property purchases all the time, it isn't a game of ' guess the price due to what I think it is worth '...it is a real business of ' knowing the price due to knowing what the property is worth '.

    The common practice for a selling price is 6 months of the gross income revenue. If your site makes $150k per year and meets all of the requirements above, it ' should ' be worth $75k at sale or auction.

    @polocolto - People don't post their domains here because they don't want select BHW members to target their sites for keyword hotspots, flamming targets, productivity damage, social rep damage to their business network...not counting forum trolls that don't ever post but search specifically for domains listed in reference to spam, as well as all of the above mentioned ill-willed actions. Hope that sheds some light on the reasoning and you take warning to it yourself, as it could be the difference between your site being succesful and spammed or run into the ground with hostile backlinks in a heartbeat.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  12. jimmy3

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    that's very informative mate, you have my thanks. ;)