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How much do you estimate I'll invest in SEO? What to invest in?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by AlexIamandi, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. AlexIamandi

    AlexIamandi Registered Member

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    Hi guys!
    So I have found a new keyword with low competition, 12k exact searches/month, got a .us EMD domain, installed wordpress, some seo plugins and posted some content.
    The website that's #1 was registered in November 2012, but has PR 2.

    So, how much do you think I'll have to invest to became #1?
    What should I invest in?? What services should I buy?
    I'm not very experienced with SEO, also, I don't have that much time.

    Thanks a lot guys!
     
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  2. Endire

    Endire Elite Member Premium Member

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    alexIamandi,

    The fast answer to your questions is, it depends. A lot of these are very subjective. There isn't really a formula that says you will be able to rank number one if you do x,y and z and spend this much money. You could spend 100 dollars you could spend 10,000. If you do a lot of the work yourself and just invest in tools like Rank Tracker or Market Samurai or SEOMoz's, then the cost may be minimal. If you do nothing on your own, you could end up spending substantially more.

    As far as time, this is also up in the air. There are a lot of factors that contribute to how long it takes to rank for a specific term including how competitive it is, what your competitors are doing to rank, and how much effort you put into ranking for the term. I would say in general if you do all the basic things involved in optimizing a website for search, it may take you 3-4 months to start getting onto the first page of results. If you work even harder at it, that time may be cut in half. That is pure speculation though. In general, it will take some time to see results and it definitely won't happen in a couple weeks.

    Perhaps you might find this post useful,

    http://www.seobook.com/how-long-does-it-take-rank-google-how-many-hours-do-i-have-work-each-day

    Hope that helps,

    Shawn
     
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  3. myownhero

    myownhero Power Member Premium Member

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    It is 100% impossible to forecast difficulty for your keyword without knowing it.

    It's like saying "if I have a kid now how long will it take before he becomes a doctor?"
     
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  4. proweb

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    Some people could invest thousands and end up sandboxing the domain, while others could rank it #1 without spending a dime (other than domain and server costs).

    A lot of beginners think money is the magic key to getting a site to rank well. Most of the time these people will end up spending $2,000 to rank a site that produces $100/month.

    But, since you asked, I'll give you the general budget if you want to do this long term:

    $90 - Scrapebox
    $120 - Proxies (for scrapebox)
    $90 - GSA
    $20/m - Ranking Tracker
     
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  5. kiminono

    kiminono Registered Member

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    That's great if you can afford the outlay for all that.

    For a lower budget some Fiverr gigs can't hurt too much as long as you don't buy useless junk from people who think they know what they're doing.
     
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  6. Cleverchristopher

    Cleverchristopher Registered Member

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    You should be able to rank a high on a non-competitive keyword in a few weeks just doing all the basics.
    Good website - on site SEO dialed in, a few good posts and pages with the appropriate use of your target keywords
    Matching Blog - with a few good posts
    Matching facebook page with a post of each blog and site post as you create them
    Matching Twitter account with tweet of each post and page
    Matching Flicker account hosting your photos - with all the tags, titles, correct meta data
    Hire someone to run all these domains mixed with your keywords on SEnuke a few times

    Six to eight weeks to get into the top half of the page for search results for the main site, five or six photos in the images results, blogger, facebook and twitter hits on the second and third page. All these parts and pieces need to be set up correctly and the photos only work with attention to detail.

    This can all be done with a few hours of work and a couple hundred bucks worth of link building, or to hire it all done - probably a grand ($1,000 USD.)

    Keep at that schedule for a few months and you can have 4 of the 10 results on the first page and a ton of hits in images. SEnuke (or equivalent) is a must to get there and you need links to the support sites as well as the main site.

    It's not rocket science - just good SEO - not even all Black Hat (except for the little bit of nuke)
    CC
     
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  7. AlexIamandi

    AlexIamandi Registered Member

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    Thanks a lot guys.
    Not sure where to start though but I have the following thing in mind:
    1. I'll create 4-5 blogspot blogs, fill them up with some related content to my keyword and I'll put links to my money website.
    2. I'll buy a linkwheel for each of my blogs from Fiverr. Seen a guy that has 4k positive feedback.
    3. I'll make a blog on my website.
    4. I'll make a facebook page and make a post for each new blog entry.
    5. I guess I'll do some manual directory submission, post articles on free-to-post blogs, and web 2.0 links to my money website.
    I think I'll do that manually because this way I'm sure my rankings won't be hurt at all.

    About the competition, I believe it is really low because of my competitors that have junk websites, with junk content.
    Also, I'm thinking to check their backlinks and try to post a link to mine too.
    What do you think about my plan?

    Thank you!
     
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    You made good suggestions on software, but you had to post this like it's a bad thing.

    Paying $2000 for something that makes $100/month is a solid investment, especially these days. In under 2 years(long time for a small investment, but still...), you're operating on only profit, AND have additional assets at your disposal and sources of opportunity.

    If you have money to invest, spend time figuring out where to spend it, but then you must absolutely go and spend it. Let your money work for you.
     
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    Is there any similar tool to rank tracker that you can pay just once instead of monthly? Cheers
     
  10. kiminono

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    Possibly. Someone on warrior forum probably came up with something though. Only issue is it'll be crap with zero support. So to answer your question it's a very probable no.
     
  11. Andrew schoon

    Andrew schoon Registered Member

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    There is a tool (I NEVER TRIED IT SO I DONU IF IT'S GOOD): hxxp://www.accuranktracker.com/