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How much are ready build EMDs worth not ranked?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by davids355, Aug 11, 2012.

  1. davids355

    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I have a few EMDs that I don't use any more.
    They don't rank well or get much traffic at all but they do have unique content, age etc.
    Are they worth anything as they are? And if so where could I sell them - I was going to go on flippa, but don't think it's worth paying the insertion fee for such small value sites?

    Any help much appreciated.
     
  2. utuxia

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    Depends on the domain name obviously, but probably not much at all. To get decent money on flippa for a site, it has to either rank well or have solid revenue. You probalby wouldn't make your $19 back, imo.

    I wish flippa had a cheaper insertion rate for domain-only listings. I would list a bunch of domains at $5 -- but not at $19.

    The most I made on flippa was $7,000 for a site that ranked #2 for a competitive word. (no revenue).
     
  3. toughtrasher

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    Don't mean to be a useless user on your thread, but I'd like to subscribe to this instead of creating a new thread asking pretty much the same thing (except I want to sell my EMD mns that is ranked and making money).

    I noticed the Flippa fees are high and are not suitable for small-priced amount. Where could I sell my micro niche adsense sites?
     
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    d4l1t0s Power Member

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    and Meathead123 in 3 ...2....1
    No one can answer this better than him
     
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  6. utuxia

    utuxia BANNED BANNED

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    What's the monthly revenue of your MNS?
     
  7. dcuthbert

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    Meathead doesn't tend to deal in low value sites so he's probably not the best person. However, he probably collates a lot of data from Flippa etc, so may have some input.

    I've sold quite a lot of micro niche sites which weren't ranking, mostly on DP since it wasn't worth paying the flippa fees.

    From my experience, you should get anywhere between $5 and $50 per site, depending on a load of factors (number/quality of articles, design, number of searches, CPC, TLD, time till expiry, niche, PR)

    I'd recommend listing them on DP, see what you get for them. It's all about the sales copy as well, make sure you really drive home what the good points about each site are.
     
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    PM me with your sites and and price if you're looking to unload them. I buy sites I think I can turn a buck on. No guarantee I'll take them but I'll take a look and let you know one way or the other.

    BTW, Flippa is now $29 to list, $14 to relist and $10 minimum success fee. The $19 days are long gone.
     
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    Well, I'm just asking for the future because I plan on making a small business of selling micro niche sites that are ranked or making money per day.
    I guess the monthly revenue will come from Adsense clicks from being #1 of the main keyword + top 3 on some of the smaller keywords.
     
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    My sites don't make anything and most of them don't get traffic, but they have had a fair bit of Seo done, they have premium themes and unique content and they do have varying positions for their respective EMDs - so won't take a lot to get them going - I paid between $50-$100 per site and I have spent the same again on services/additional content.

    Maybe I will take a look on DP, how much is it to list on there?
     
  11. dcuthbert

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    Free to list.

    If they have good backlinks and are ranking somewhere close to first page then that may push the price up a bit, but I can't see you getting anywhere near your investment back, no-one's going to $100+ for a MNS which isn't getting traffic/revenue.
     
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    ^^ cheers mate, just got to wait 14 days and make some posts now :)
     
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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    ^^ and yes I appreciate they are not worth that much, just don't want them to go to waste :)
     
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    Look up a MNS creation thread in the BST and see how much a such site costs to build, then value it accordingly. Put a few dollars on the top for the age.
     
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    Don't agree with this at all. Even considering age, I'd pay more for a newly created MNS than I would for one that may have been penalised during the penguin update.
     
  17. Junkfood00

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    OP don't listen to this guy.

    Where did you get the "penalized" bit from? The OP never mentioned it, he even done SEO for the sites so they are much more worth than newly created ones.
     
  18. dcuthbert

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    I said "may have been", I didn't say they are.

    After the penguin update so many MNS have been penalised and dropped out of the rankings that I as a buyer would make the assumption that any MNS which is aged but is not ranking has been penalised. Part of the thought pattern that any buyer should follow, prepare for the worst case scenario, don't bid based on the best case scenario.

    And "done SEO for the sites" counts for absolutely nothing unless they're ranking - one person's definition of "doing SEO" is different from another's.

    I'm guessing you don't buy websites based on your comments?
     
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    Lol. I don't think they are penalised.

    One is ranked #9 for it's main kw.
    One gets around 30 Uniques per day and one I never managed to rank at all (it's actually a high worth product), but now after 6 month inactivity I think it's ranked like #30 or something;)
     
  20. Junkfood00

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    What I meant was the MNS sites have already matured in the search engines that new owners wouldn't have to do the whitehat bit to get started. And by "done SEO for the sites" I meant that things had already started, not that they are already optimized and nothing can be done anymore. Don't take things literally, just apply common sense.